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How can OKC afford to pay much more in lux tax than Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Senator, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. OKCRocket

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    Their owner doesn't care about the money right now because of things going on in his personal life so he'll pay whatever it takes. If Melo had been good in OKC then he would still be there
     
  2. heypartner

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    fwiw: Cousins cannot resign with GSW for more than $6m-ish next year, no matter how much they want to pay him. He will have to leave to be paid.

    And as soon as we sign Capela and use our MLE our salary will be at ~$142m. OKC is at $148. And GSW is at $143m.

    You're assuming that OKC is far outspending us. They aren't.

    They are in Tax hell, because they are paying the repeater tax...which requires several years to happen, and they have zero to show for it.
     
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  3. Senator

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    bottomline: rockets need more talent. not leaning on ryan anderson and carmelo to be something they have never been.
     
  4. heypartner

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    But....

    We were one half of basketball away from a title last year (without CP3) by "leaning on ryan anderson to be something he has never been."

    ....anchored to the bench.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    Les is laughin.
     
  6. xtruroyaltyx

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    Rockets upgraded this off season
     
  7. Air Langhi

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    They lost Kevin Durant and are still a playoff team. Its not like OKC was that far from beating the warriors. I mean what would happen to the rockets if they lost harden? Presti has hit on more picks than any other GM that I can think of. If their ownership wasn't so cheap back then, they could have kept their three stars.
     
  8. Reeko

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    Presti is a very good GM, and I would take him over most of the other ones

    no one wants to go to OKC which makes it hard to build a team...u gotta overpay for role players because stars aren’t giving u meetings, and u gotta take risks via trade

    with that said, a team of OKC’s caliber shouldn’t be costing u this much in taxes, and I question his coaching hires and some of his team building decisions...OKC always seems to lack shooting...he seems obsessed with racking up long defenders that can’t shoot
     
  9. Corrosion

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    You are correct ... but man , he was such a critical piece and I don't really believe they have replaced what he does with the combination of minimum signings .... expecting someone to outplay that minimum deal , they have to significantly outplay that deal to contribute Ariza's replacement.
    And when you consider it was a ONE year deal , how much more flexibility do you need ?! That deal is an easy one to rid yourself of and an asset.


    They have yet to spend that MLE , who is out there that they would spend it on besides the obvious Melo who is no guarantee to come.

    I said in another thread a week or so ago that I could see them NOT spending that MLE and doing their level best to get below the tax line. If Capela takes that tender instead of a long term deal , they don't have to cut much salary to get below the tax line.


    I think that's a real possibility , especially of Melo decides to go somewhere else , who's left that's A worth the remainder of the MLE and B makes this team better ?! You might be better off avoiding the tax this year to avoid that repeater tax towards the tail end of Cp3's contract.
     
  10. Zboy

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    Morey is here
     
  11. Corrosion

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    As stated above , my main issue with the Ariza deal is that he took a one year deal .... even if they overpay on a one year deal , its an easy one to get out of and could be used to pry a quality player away from a team that's looking to rebuild / shed salary.

    Remember what Morey turned T-Mac's expiring contract into ?!
     
  12. pippendagimp

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    capela can still be nudged into taking the QO and ryno can still be shipped off in a salary dump. the owner had to take on deep debt just to be able to purchase the franchise, so pushing to get under the lux tax would not surprise me at all.
     
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    So why are we making this thread the same day OKC gave away a first round pick to save 12 million dollars this season? It's clearly an issue for them as well.

    The luxury tax in the NBA is crazy expensive when you start getting deep into it. There's literally not an owner in the league that doesn't balk at 100 million dollars for one player that the team doesn't even want.
     
  14. jimmyv281

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    Indian casinos run it...
     
  15. cheke64

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    Cause we broke ninja, we broke. We paying Ryno 20 mill for the next 5 years and still paying McHale that 20 mill extension and we are gonna pay Cp3 150 mill until he's 40 years old. My numbers might be off a little but Morey is a horrible General Motor
     
  16. Mastro

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    Being a good business man isn't about paying what you can afford to. Its about paying the right amount.

    OKC is paying big bucks for no results.
     
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  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    If my owner is using his NBA team as a legitimate business and not a luxury then your team will have problems.
     
  18. Mastro

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    lol. you're right. Spending what you can afford is working really well for the Thunder. Worked well for the Nets also.

    On the other hand, the spurs (who are always fiscally responsible) have done quite well for themselves. Although they have a coaching issue right now.
     
  19. Toffeeone

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    Don't show yourself in here if you got no clue about Rockets. This isn't a place for you.
     
  20. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    True. And until I see the "Ariza Replacement" it is going to be annoying. Especially juxtapose small market OKC spending to ADD to the team.

    Melo is the Anderson replacement
    Ennis is the Moute replacement
    [Player X] is the Ariza replacement.

    Need that Player X.
     
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