Batman, hello. I come to you with a question. I would like to know your thoughts on why you feel that Obama is a better candidate than McCain on the topic of the economy. I am very curious to hear your point of view on this. Thank you.
Rimrocker provided specific examples to back up his claim. Perhaps you ought to do likewise to show that your claims are based in "the real world.
How can McCain beat Obama? Videos like this well help. Look for stuff like this to get a lot of air time starting in October. I don't care how much of a lead Obama may get from his bump after the Dem convention, come November, it will be close. Hillary will have a lot more to say in this election than Dems want (if you know what I mean). <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/T2DECDKOFnw&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/T2DECDKOFnw&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Are you unable to articulate why you said that you're in favor of Obama partly due to how he would handle the economy? If Batman is unwilling to address my question, could another left-leaner? Thank you.
I love threads like this, since it presupposes that the issues in the election will be crowd size, media buzz, etc. of course, McCain will, should he win, beat Obama at the ballot box (screen?). and he'll win, if he does, because Americans will have decided that he's the best man to lead our country. but of course, should Obama lose, the democrats will never accept that he lost fair and square.
I love threads like this, since they're not the sh-tty kind that you start, where you just post an editorial or an article or a youtube video, without taking the time to slightly alter it and pass it off as your own work like you used to do.
Obama is not "very liberal". There are not many if any "very liberal" senators. Obama's positions for the most part are very much with centrist policies/views. Even the National Review say Obama and Hillary are very very very close in policies, that the only reason Obama came out as the most liberal sentator last year where she was in the teens is selective votes of last year because he missed a lot of votes campaining (over the last three years they voted over 95% together). McCain didn't even register a ranking because he voted too few times. Obama and Clinton are left-center, center-left, etc. As for the economic issue, one trend I believe Obama would do relative to McCain is to stilt federal spending back more to domestic areas (science, education, medicine, public good) rather than external (e.g., wars, trying to nation build), the latter appears to be McCain's priority for federal spending. I think this is some better for our economy in the short term, and tremendously wiser and more effective long term.
He does not have the most liberal voting record. Again there is an elected socialist in the Senate. They gave Obama that tag to target him. It's the same that happened when Kerry went from something like 12th most liberal to most liberal once it looked obvious that he would be the Democratic nominee. Of course that was bogus as well because the same Socialist senator was in the Senate then too.
And, remember, Lieberman became a "liberal" when he joined Al Gore's ticket. The charges of being "liberal" and "marxist" from right-wingers now ticks me off as nothing more than sloganeering & slander and the sludge attacks from the kooks this time around will backfire on them with a good many voters. Still, it will motivate a lot of their "base" to come out and vote.
Yes, but it was successful for a while. To some degree the term "liberal" is still seen as bad, but I would like to think that the political consumer is becoming at least a little more wise to the tactics being used.
I'm not unwilling to address any question from a serious person here. Or even a joking one. As long as they're willing to respond in kind. You're not. You're here to troll. You ask questions, demand responses, post your TIA, then people answer and you go poof. People ask you questions and you go poof. Your question is simple to answer but it's a waste of time. And it feeds the trolls. Carry on with your Obama's too black, not black enough, secretly Muslim, secretly a gay crackhead, won't pledge allegiance lies. The American people see through it. Welcome to the Obama administration, starting in January and ending 8 years later. Learn it, live it, love it. The long national nightmare is nearly over.
If McCain is going to run as a change candidate then he is in trouble. It's too easy to link McCain and Bush. McCain can certainly win, but he's going to have to go back to the classic post Nixon GOP strategy of scaring the white suburbanites, winning enough conservative hispanic voting blocks in states like Florida and Texas and scaring people to death about terrorism. Oh, and voter suppression. That works, too. Maybe Bush will "help" McCain by moving on Iran. That could work. McCain should completely de-emphasize Iraq and the economy where possible. Those are losing issues for Republicans. If I were advising McCain I would stress the issue of who is more ready to be president and see if it sticks.
3 pages in and finally somebody answers the OP's question. Nice work, BMoney. Yes. The correct answer is: he could beat him with a fear based fakeout. Thing is, Obama's already proved himself too smart to get taken in by junk like that. Which is exactly why I picked him for prez more than a couple years back. What a revelation it will be to have a smart poet of a president, one who actually thinks in terms of philosophy and doesn't just spend his words in service of cynical spin. One who is there because he believes in things and has done the work to understand best methods of implementing those beliefs. What a revelation and what a relief after the permanent damage inflicted by these last seven years. And how encouraging for the Democratic Party going forward. 1992 taught a DLC lesson, the crux of which was to hide your beliefs and ideology in order to appeal to the middle while in every single race where Bill Clinton wasn't a candidate we got our asses handed to us by Republicans who were all too happy to argue in favor of their sincere beliefs. Our new party leader (not to mention presidential nominee) is not DLC at all. In fact, when they erroneously included his name in a mailer he demanded it be removed. This guy is a true believer with a fighting spirit. He will win and he will provide a template for true believer Democrats that follow him. It's funny how Rove preached a permanent Republican majority all the while laying the groundwork for a permanent Democratic one. But I'm not one to just sit around laughing. Let's do this thing.
Overconfidence is weakness. Make no mistake, this is a horse race and Obama is Big Brown. GWB was an obvious idiot and he got elected twice, John McCain is no idiot and a certifiably heroic figure. There are still huge numbers of people out there in the heartland that deathly afraid of change, of terrorist, of a Muslim/black president, of socialism, of the marginalization of the white race, of the decline of the traditional christian religion. And there are hundreds of Karl Rove trained minions out there ready willing and able to exploit those fears. Who has a higher viewership? Fox Or CNN? Who has the larger more involved audience? Rush, Savage, Hannity, Millikan and Coulter or Air America? This election won't be over till every trick in the book has been played and the Dems garner enough votes keep it out of the hands of the Supreme Court. Remember it's not the total popular vote that deteremines the election, it's the Electoral College.
Does anyone still remember Osama Bin Laden? Who is more likely to capture him? Obama or McCain? Osama's head should be a top priority! All politicians are mostly talk first. They make empty promises just to win the election. So I can't tell who will be more successful if elected. So I look at credentials. Most former presidents were military officers who served in wars. We are currently in a war. McCain: Navy aviator who was POW for 5 years. That's alot of prison time he suffered for his country. Obama: None at all. About the Iraq War, I don't think McCain is so cold blooded that he'll just put the troops there just so more will die. If anything, McCain is more patriotic than Obama. Bush already made a mess, so it's proper that the next president has to clean it up. How can we beat our chests calling ourselves the most powerful country in the world when we retreat when things get ugly? Refer to Vietnam War. If we stay, more troops will die. But if we leave, the ones dead will be for a lost cause. I don't know what the solution (if any) is to the problem in Iraq, but I just think retreating shows no pride. I don't know, I too have a feeling that Obama will win because of all the hype about him.
Maybe Obama's Muslim brothers will turn him over in a gesture of goodwill and a sign of beginning a new era of cooperation.
Because I attended a music college in boston for my first two years, and transfered to St. mary's to finish in another 3 years, I feel that no one taught me history the way it was supposed to be taught. I want to learn this history. Where can I learn? Maybe a great american like you will help me out. =) Thanks in advance. P.S And no need to rain on my parade!! Mccain being held captive is all new to me, since it has never been brought up! Let me live a little!!!
