fatty had every right to do what he did and i agree that it is a real sad deal when women use that to their advantage..it is very common and makes me sick... i am sorry that you had to deal with that...and what goes around comes around..she is obviously a conniving b*tch and its women like that that cause me to lose my respect that my dearest mother taught me to have...i used to be so nice but women like fatty's have turned the tables.. you cant always give the benefit of the doubt to a woman and you have to look at all factors..case by case.. i may get sh*t but i think chmura was innocent and the case against him and the abuse of perception that fatty is talking about is what happened there look at his career down the tubes from some lame a$$ b*tch.. ------------------ they say the meek shall inherit the earth
Love, It is simply amazing. It can bring out the best in you . . .or the worse. Fatty sorry about your situation. You were between a rock and a hard place and it is human to be frustrationed. I hope you heal well and I hope you have the opportunity to build a relationship with your son. . . NO SANE PARENT should be isolated from their child Rocket River Keep ya head up ------------------
Right, the hypocrite Chmura running around in his underwear with underage girls. He may have been not-guilty of the charges, but he's guilty of being a hypocrite and of having extremely poor judgment. sirhangover, how do you know that fatty fat fat's situation is common? I'm not saying I don't believe him because I do, I just know a lot of guys who have beat their significant others who have tried to use that lame ass excuse like she had it coming. However, instead of a head-butt to a woman who was threatening to take away their kid, it was a punch because they were pissed that dinner wasn't ready or because they came home drunk. I understand how someone could lose their cool, I've done it myself (grabbing), but I seriously, seriously doubt that fatty fat fat's example is representative of the majority of the cases. ------------------ "Knickerbocker Please!" visit www.swirve.com, coming January 20th, the top 10 films of 2000! http://www.geocities.com/clutch34_2000 for great Rocket insight by some of your fellow BBS posters! [This message has been edited by Rocketman95 (edited February 07, 2001).]
Hey guys: I really appreciate the comments. They are fairly representative of most of the people who know about this. As far as seeing my son, my wife still tries to make it as difficult as possible. Luckily, the courts do allow a father to have rights, and that is the step I have taken for now. I'll let you know... Meanwhile, the ex has told our mutual confidants that she wishes I would just give up my son, so the new one can adopt him! Simply psycho. And no, I have never missed a child support payment, either. ------------------ "I never did like that "Dr. Stupid""-Monty Burns
Back in my past life (late 70s), I lived with a girl who surprised me by going balistically physical on me during an arguement. I was shocked and didn't know what to do - other than get in a ball and cover all the important parts (head, privates, etc). At first it didn't hurt that much, so I thought I'd just let her wear herself out. But as time went by, it became even more violent and started hurting. I knew I couldn't hit back so finally I did what came to mind - the Vulcan pinch. You know that move that Spock did (I am not a Treky - just saw some shows as a kid) - where he grabs the muscle right above the coller bone? It dropped her like a sack of potatoes. I left that night and moved out the next day. No excuses for my part that night - but unfortunately a true story. The thing that puzzles me to this day. What made me even think the Vulcan pinch would work? About the topic though - why would you want to hit the woman you love? ------------------
sirhangover: You sound like you must have some real issues there. It is NEVER one person's fault and it is NOT common for women to do this sort of thing. My mother is a guidance counselor and therapist and does presentations to other counselors about things like domestic violence quite frequently. Male-dominant manipulation is far more frequent than female and male manipulation and abuse is only reported about 10 percent of the time. No one should attempt to control someone else through their actions, but your argument is not supported by statistics or common sense. It is the same tired argument that breeds things like "she seduced him" or "she was asking for it" when talking about unwanted pregnancy or date rape. It is as if men have absolutely no control over their pen!s. Ridiculous. Studies have repeatedly shown that only 1 in 4 rapes and only 1 in 10 cases of abuse are reported by women to the police. The idea that somehow women commonly use their feminine wilds to seduce men and create some sort of trap is not just an insult to women, it is an insult to men because it suggests we are too stupid and horny to control ourselves. Your feelings are obvious, but you have no basis for them in fact. ------------------ Me fail English? That's unpossible.
I am curious to know what made you think of the Vulcan neck pinch as well...why not the mind melt? Then you could have frozen her AND known what she was thinking. He he! I am not trekkie either, but did see the movies when I was a kid. Anyhow, I had a female attack me as well. I asked her a question one morning(she had cancelled in insurance policy, and kept the deposit, so I asked where my deposit was, and things were awkward and tense due to being on the verge of a breakup) and she turned her hair dryer on, and ignored me. I unplugged it, asked her again, and she came after me. First she tried to burn me with her curling iron, then she began kicking me in the shins, and she bit my hand as I put my hands out to keep her away. Then the punches began flying at my face. Well, I just started to laugh. I guess it was either that or get mad. Of course, my laughing at her made her even more furious, and she kept on. I just grabbed her, like a big bear hug, and wrestled her to the ground and basically put all my weight on her (sort of like the crocodile hunter) until she got tired and stopped struggling. Then I let her up, she straightened her shirt up a little, and went on about her business. ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." [This message has been edited by HOOP-T (edited February 07, 2001).]
Nice attitude, hangover. Maybe the reason you only see "conniving b****es" is because the women with any sense at all have learned to steer clear of chauvanist dinosaurs like you. ------------------
Never saw it. But trust me, after that day, I was greatful to be rid of her.....and that deposit was just a "nice parting gift." ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
Hoop - I like your response better. I guess the point is - there are other ways to respond to physical violence. Sometimes strange things come to mind, but like you probably concluded also, you don't hit a woman. Pole - That reminds me, I didn't get me half of the apartment deposit back. ------------------
thanks rascal...actually I get more women now as i know not to fall for stupidity and melodrama antics..a girl hits me and she hits the road..no different with cindy crawford or claudia schiffer.. i saw it on a bathroom wall and it was the first time i had seen it it..i have since seen it elsewhere but was profound and one of the few statements in the world that rings true through and through ...actually i am going to change my signature here to say it..you've enlightened me rascal and reminded me: 'no matter how good she looks someone somewhere is tired of her sh*t' its knowing what you are up against and not falling for their stupid games...actually whats funny and sad in some ways is that when you treat a woman like sh*t she always comes back for more..you could call that taking advantage or being chauvanistic but i call it being smart protecting yourself against stupidity and evil that often lurks.. its called not being a b*tch to the joke we call womens lib..not being like the hundred of lame a$$es that spend their whole paycheck on some coked up slut at the mensclub...why am i going to care or not be chavanistic when dealing with a girl that has issues or doesnt even respect herself? and also..i owe a woman something because she has sex with me? c'mon give me a break who is to say she doesnt owe me for me having sex with her?Its even more sad when I buy a girl a gift and then she is more willing to have sex...that always makes me laugh then leads back to what i was talking about and thats treating her like sh*t after that..why? because she whored herself over a pair of earrings?..then she is jocking me thinking ill get her something else..but wait why is he being an a$$ now?haha stupid b*tch..and whats even funnier is she comes back for more..sad...then she wont go away.. I only fight fire with fire rascal and then we are on an even playing field ..i never act lame first (but dont lose my trust) and yes there are some sweet girls out there I am only speaking in the context of this thread of the sad ones and there are more out there then people will admit to and i have no respect for a woman that does what this b*tch that fatty was with did... frankly she probably deserved to be smacked up but fatty knows as much as I do...no b*tch is worth that waste of energy to hit her..f*ck her shes history and maybe he can or already has met someone better.. the story still makes me sick especially when it starts to involve children..what a sad b*tch.. I dont want to sound like a rap star but again i stress i am only speaking within the context of the type of women we are discussing...the field needs to be even...can you agree to that? ------------------ they say the meek shall inherit the earth [This message has been edited by sirhangover (edited February 07, 2001).]
WHOA, we have just gone to DEFCON 5.... Prepare for battle. ------------------ There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
sirhangover: To live with that kind of anger must be completely debilitating. How sad. As for fatty, even he knew what he did was a mistake. You don't even know more than a 10 second glimpse of her life and yet you pass judgement. At least guys like fatty have the courage and conscience to learn from their mistakes. You make every male on the planet look like a complete idiot. Thanks. ------------------ Me fail English? That's unpossible.
again i was referring to women within the context of this thread...you can take it however you want but I am ONLY speaking about that type of woman.. i stand by my comments.. ------------------ they say the meek shall inherit the earth
rocketman...arent you the same guy that came on here telling us all about how you hit your girlfriend because you had anger control issues?..i am pretty sure it was you..if i am wrong about that then i apologize..but you love to disagree.. well i stand by my comment about chmura he was stupid to be there at all underwear or not..but i still feel he was framed... anyway i dont know the fatty situation but he spent a long time here typing it and i can infer that his ex is a lame a$$ b****.. i unfortunately have met many like this and although wrong for me to generalize the amount of women that use these types of issues as a crutch or spite or plain deviuosness is more common than you think..it has happened to me and I have never hit a girl (does picking one up by her shirt count against me after she hit me closed fist in the face twice?)anyway.. I agree with you that many use the 'she had it coming' excuse as well and that is no excuse... so i have kept my cool but i often wonder what happens if the girl is hitting you inflicting physical damage on you? how do you stop that without any sort of brushing off..defensive push off/or slap? just wondering.. ------------------ they say the meek shall inherit the earth
I've never ever hit any girlfriend of mine. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000944.html ------------------ "Knickerbocker Please!" visit www.swirve.com, coming January 20th, the top 10 films of 2000! http://www.geocities.com/clutch34_2000 for great Rocket insight by some of your fellow BBS posters! [This message has been edited by Rocketman95 (edited February 07, 2001).]
My god this thread is still alive!!!??? This confirms that the posters here at BBS are a sick bunch of people! Proud to be part of it! ------------------ Dream a deadly Dream. . .
I remember that. Hilarious. Actually, the way that they know that is reporting from therapists. The number of reported cases of rape, abuse and incest is published in psychology journals each year. Obviously, they are not allowed to reveal the patient name or the perpetrator, but they are allowed to give individual stats based on cases reported in session. They take those numbers and compare them with actual reported incidents. Hope that clears it up. ------------------ Me fail English? That's unpossible.