How bad does Rafer and JLIII have to play before you think VSpan deserves a shot?

My sentiments exactly!

 

Rafer plays point until we have someone better. Period!!!!!

 

Yep, how hard is it to understand that? I swear there would be complaining if the Rockets finished the season without another loss.

 

That shouldn't take much....

 

And you said the same thing about Howard too. Funny, you don't bring up that subject anymore.

 

Howard has been playing great.......but he doesn't really fit very well with Yao...as we need someone to spread the floor to give Yao room.

Or when his man leaves to double Yao, we need a PF who will cut to the basket ala Hayes.

Howard....has been outstanding - especially with Yao out.

DD

 

NONSENSE! JHo has been in the NBA for 15 years. He has averaged 16 points a games with 7 boards over that long haul. He has averaged 35 minutes of playing time per game, with 5 different teams. His numbers have been solid and impressive. He has paid his dues to the NBA and is entitled to some respect. Of course, he got NONE from you and ZBoy, who piled insult upon insult upon him. Now ZBoy had the intelligence to go into hiding. You?

 

1) That he's willing to go in, listen to the coach, and work on his deficiencies, and improve on them. Last year he was shooting 32% from 3pt land, this year he's around 36-37%. His defense last year was lacking, this year it's been solid if not very good.

2) He's humble. If he were benched for a long time he'd say something along the lines of "well, I wasn't helping the team and I think coach did what he thought was best for the team" instead of whining about it to the media.

 

He is a horribel shooter, dont tell me he works on his shot, because it still doesnt go in, no matter how much he works on it. His defense is average at best. Rafer sucks and should not be starting on an NBA team. Name one other team in the nba could start for. Why not give someone else a chance? I would be fine with rafer if he only shot 8 shots pergame. But he taqkes 18 and missed 15. That is a turnover in my mind. If you know you are cold, dont take the shot. Him shooting a three is as good as giving the ball away.

That should be expected from an NBA player. Humble is not a characteristic ost important for a PG. They need a tough, hard -nosed competitor. Not guy who lacks confidence, is scared to dribble into the lane, and cant shoot to save his life.

 

The numbers prove you wrong.

Rafer doesn't lack confidence. He shoots 15 times a game. He's not scared to drive either.

Vspan hasn't shown this quality in any case. So, if humility should be expected from an NBA player, and Vspan doesn't show humility, does that mean he doesn't have the attributes necessary to be an NBA player?

p.s. "can't shoot to save his life": Vspan shooting 31% from the field and 20% from 3pt range...that's what not being able to shoot to save your life is.

 

I'm sure the Hawks, Celtics, Cavs, Lakers, Bucks would all love to have Rafer.

 

I think having the 2nd lowest shooting percentage of any NBA starter is a number that proves Rafer cannot shot

Maybe if he got to play more that 1 minute per game he could improve that. Steve Novk is a GREAT shooter, but you cant expect him to come off the bench for 30 seconds and nail a shot while being cold. His 3p% is only 29%. Plus, Spanoulis doesnt take that many shots, so it is fine. If he only takes 5 shots and onlymakes 1, that is better than Rafer having consistant 4-18 nights.

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Span owns JL3 and Alston regularly in practice.

 

On an interesting note,

FIBA Europe voted Spanoulis 7th best European player of 2006 (ahead of tony parker)

The top 10 is as follows:

1 Theo Papaloukas (GRE)
2 Pau Gasol (ESP)
3 Dirk Nowitzki (GER)
4 Jorge Garbajosa(ESP)
5 Juan Carlos Navarro (ESP)
6 Boris Diaw (FRA)
7 Vasileios Spanoulis (GRE)
8 Tony Parker (FRA)
9 JR Holden (RUS)
10 Jaka Lakovic (SLO)

 

It will be lonely for you if you are sticking up for J-Ho.....

Juwan Howard's PER rating has been among the most abysmal of all starting Power forwards in the NBA especially the last few years.

And, if you ask others around here, before the year started, I thought he would be good enough as a starter with Yao and Tmac.

I was wrong......he is not good enough....he constently gets torched on the defensive end. He gets at least one moving screen called on him per game, and he can not stay in front of his man to save his life.

What he can do however, is shoot that 18 footer and get rebounds....but he is HARDLY a great player.

PG is our weakest position, but PF ain't far behind.

DD

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3867/gamelog;_ylt=ApKvD1B_Px5fPkI85DxPK.2kvLYF

10 minutes, 0-5 shooting
20 minutes, 1-3 shooting
15 minutes, 0-1 shooting
17 minutes, 2-5 shooting
23 minutes, 4-9 shooting
18 minutes, 1-6 shooting
6 minutes, 0-2 shooting
11 minutes, 0-2 shooting
9 minutes, 0-2 shooting
17 minutes, 4-6 shooting
12 minutes, 0-1 shooting

Notice how he's only shot > 50% one time? As for the "playing 1 minute", most of the time he plays less than 5 minutes, he doesn't even shoot which doesn't affect his averages.

Next argument please?

 

Not true, he will stick with them until injury sets in. Bonzi got some minutes because of T-Mac's injury. Therefore if you wanna see VSpan playing, you 'll have to pray for an injury to occur in both Rafer and JLIII.......

 

In JVG's mind set, the question should be rephrase to:

How bad do injury have to occur on Rafer and JLIII before you feel Span desreves a shot?
a) as bad as what Chuck Hayes had
b) as bad as what Snyder had
c) as bad as what YaoMing had
d) as bad as what T-mac is having now......

 

It doesn't matter what we think

Spanoulis should bring some baklava to the locker room.

That's his best shot to contribute to the Rox. He will not contribute on the floor so he might as well help with the team chemistry. Bring the guys together around some sweet baklava.

 

Somebody please, please, please do a photoshop of V-Span and JVG for the movie poster "My Big Fat Greek Wedding"!!!