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How about : Wesley and Moochie for Derek Anderson?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by lal_da_munda, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. TigerBait

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    Hehe, i google'd for that as well, but it doesn't work. Im going to keep looking for it, but someone said some of the lyric on another BBS site, so i took it off there.
     
  2. YallMean

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    There has to be a trade board to talk about FANTASY trades.
     
  3. aries323

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    DA at this point in his career will hurt us more than help us, please just say no to DA.
     
  4. baller4life315

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    Care to explain your logic here?

    Anderson is "completely and totally shot" because he's been injured the past two seasons? I don't buy it.

    A Derek Anderson with bum knees is already more athletic & explosive than Wesley is. He's bigger, a more creative scorer, younger.....I doubt there's a GM out there that would choose Wesley over Anderson placing all monetary issues aside.
     
  5. coolweather

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    James and Mochie for Derek.
     
  6. Desert Scar

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    Wesley actually outscored DA last year (and outperformed him in virtually all respects). DA has been a very inconsistent shooter throughout his career. When DA had all his athleticism he was a solid NBA starter, with that athleticism all but gone he just is an inconsistent player on both ends who complains a lot and has like 17 mil coming to him the next two years.

    I'd much rather keep Wesley, better defender, better role player.
     
  7. baller4life315

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    Wesley is basically limited to being only a spot up shooter at this point in his career. Take the Dallas series for example, I can hardly remember him even taking a look at a shot closer than 20 feet to the basket. He's offensive game is very limited and while he is an above average defender, he is undoubtedly slowing down and is usually placed at a disadvantage due to his size.

    I really liked and appreciate what Wesley brought to the court this past season, nobody ever game him any props for giving it his all and chasing around opposing SG's every game. The only problem is Wesley is only a band-aid at SG. We made the move to accomodate moving T-Mac to the 3 not to acquire any form of a long-term solution at SG. Now I am not implying Anderson would be any long-term solution either, but despite his injuries his all-around game is better than Wesley's. He's bigger, he's younger and is very dangerous one-on-one, we could really use that. Granted, he's streaky but I really think if the opportunity presented itself it's a risk worth taking as I don't believe he's "done" at all, like some of you are suggesting.
     
  8. GATER

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    Is "Mochie" a new kind of latte? Portland is pretty near Seattle so I'm not sure how they'd value it in a trade.
     
  9. micah1j

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    Portland would do this in a heartbeat. Get a real player in Wesley for their untradable Anderson.

    I've have also heard they are working on a buyout.
     
  10. Desert Scar

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    I recognize many of the issues with Wesley and have shared them in other threads, it is why I am in favor of a S&T for Damon S with Wesley if the oppertunnity presents itself.

    I just don't think Anderson is an answer. I think he has few "intangables" (mentality, effort, or BB IQ) to make him a solid role player now that he is average to below average in athleticism. And I certainly want no part of his contract. If he is baught out and the LLE is possible maybe, but I'd rather try Wesley, Sura, Glover and Head to fill the two spot, assuming we picked up another 1, than try the mentioned trade.

    I'd also much rather see if Kittles or Spree via LLE or S&T is a possibility than Anderson. Those two I think make better all around role players. McInnis could be another possibility, but you have rumers about his attitude and approach just like with DA. Greg Buckner is another I would explore well before DA.
     
  11. T_Man

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    LOL...................

    You guys are killing me.....................
     
  12. AstroRocket

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    Why do you guys think this trade is so rediculous? Did you forget that Portland wanted to trade Derek for Mo Taylor last year? Their contracts were almost exactly identical, yet in portland's eyes, Mo was worth more over the length of his contract than Derek would've been.

    We wound up trading MoT for Moochie and Vin Baker just to get out of his contract. Now, are you guys saying that Anderson has supposedly improved so much that Portland wouldn't make a similar move to get out from under his? remember, they see his contract as a bigger burden that MO TAYLOR'S. That's something. IMO, they would jump all over this trade if it were offered. Not for Wesley and Moochie, but just to get rid of their obligation to Anderson.

    By the same token, I also believe that Anderson's contract isn't worth trading for. He's just not the player he used to be.
     
  13. JoeBarelyCares

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    No need to trade for Anderson; he's going to be cut per an article in today's Oregonian:

    "Portland will have salary room once it exercises the league's new amnesty clause, which allows a team to waive a player and not have the salary enter into luxury tax arithmetic.

    This means Derek Anderson is gone. Ruben Patterson, another veteran who might be a candidate to be move, is likely to stay with the team. Patterson played well last season, and McMillan likes him from their days in Seattle.

    The Blazers still would have to pay Anderson but would get to subtract his $9 million salary from the luxury tax cap.

    Right now, the Blazers' payroll is at $58 million. If the luxury tax cap comes in at $60 million again, it would leave little room for hiring free agents.

    But waiving Anderson would put Portland at $49 million, and the Blazers could sign two players to $5 million contracts and stay under the cap. Jasikevicius should be in this price range.

    Waiving Anderson is critical to reinvigorating the roster. Free agents Damon Stoudamire and Richie Frahm will not be back, nor will Nick Van Exel. "
     
  14. Deuce

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    DA with the LLE wouldnt be a bad move if some other options aren't out there.
     
  15. emjohn

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    Unfortunately, in the real world, monetary issues aren't put aside. For the sake of the argument, however, I'll leave their playing ability out of this post. You say you look at both as being band-aid-solution SGs, with DA representing a slight upgrade. Would you really want to trade a final year, $5 million dollar band-aid for one still due $9 and 9.7 million on top of the fact that he's a 31-yo guard with two dead knees? Seriously?

    Anderson, when he left SA, was definitely a good player. Today, he's shot. And he's not going to recover. He's back up material from here on out.

    Like it's been said though, if he's waived and can be had for just over a tenth of his previous contract, that would make a sensible "band-aid."

    Evan
     

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