Counterpoint taken, interesting comparison to Sheldon, although I never thought Sheldon would make a good pro. I just never saw any real intensity in his game unlike what I've seen with Tyler. Would Tyler's positives translate to being a tough, scrappy defender like a Matt Harpring or even Chuck Hayes with a bit more offensive game? I could see him play a niche role like that. He might be better suited to a Jerry Sloan type team. Anyway, I'll get off the Hansbrough wagon for now, looking forward to seeing what Morey does with this year's draft if he makes a move. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZGN...rough-highlights.html&feature=player_embedded
he has an average post game like chris mihm did in college. Except he doesn't have the height or length to get his shot off on the block in the pros. If he was 6'10", I think he'd go top 5 given his skill set. At his height, he'll be a 8th man in the NBA eventually..
only if he promises to wear a jersey that actually fits. (can't believe i'm the only one that's noticed this and finds it incredibly annoying.)
The best you can hope for out of Tylar is he will be another Luis Scola or Carl landry. last time I check......we already have both. we need a solid 5. he is a scrappy 4
Taller defenders will be able to block his shot. The taller defenders are going to have a tough time not picking up body contact and sending him to the line at the same time. Getting cheap fouls on guys that can try to guard Yao Ming...that is completely worthless to the Rockets. He's not going to be able to post up because of his size. He's also not going to be able to post up since Yao will be posting up. He's not going to be a great man to man defender, but does hustle so he should work fine on being a pesky team defender. He is not a complete albatross on offense away from the basket. Defenders will have to guard him. Tyler seems like the player that will excel without the ball on backdoor cuts as he is always working. Hansbrough has zero potential to be a star in the NBA. He has a good potential to be an annoying player that comes off the bench. Hansbrough will be a below average player in the NBA most likely, but below average players can still provide 20 valuable min/game off the bench. Expecting more from a late first round pick is unrealistic even from Morey.
Hansbrough can only DREAM that he will be as good as Scola. At best he might be the next Matt Harpring but even Harpring can give you more at the NBA level than bug-eyed Tyler. Hansbrough is the classic case of the great college player who will be nothing in the pros. He's the basketball version of Tim Tebow (another guy who has no shot of being a great player on the professional level). Just because you were named All-American and got the Wooden Award doesn't translate to being successful at the next level.
While I agree with the overall idea that Tyler won't reach near the same level of success he's had, the fact that you compared him to Matt Harpring shows you have no idea what you're talking about.
sorry Manny, I gotta agree here. Harpring and Hansbrough.. will never even be slightly close to the same player.. Harpring came into the league shooting. He likes to be physical, but I think that's where the similarities end really
a lot of people don't like hansbrough, i like him a lot.. he hustles he works hard he competes and he did it the right way, he stayed all four years i respect the guy
The j*zz fans like him a lot; he cheap, hustling, physical play style fits Sloan's system perfectly. The j*zz + UNC crap = Nothing can be hated more.
I'm pretty sure that Harpring was an all-American at Georgia Tech. Was he as decorated, college player wise, as Hansbrough? No, but my point is that I think Hansbrough could have an NBA career that is similar to Harpring's - someone who comes off the bench and fills a role and that is it.
Tyler can come off the bench,and play a role but not to the same extent as Harpring.Harpring's skills have slowed down and he is relying more on physical play,but he has been a jack of all trade for most of his career. I know Tyler plays at a different position,but I gave the example above to highlight the difference between the two of them.
He has great qualities,he has done a lot more than more talented and athletic players. This will help him as a pro,but I'm looking at our needs. We need a player in the frontcourt who can compliment Yao and/or Scolandry,Tyler is not that guy.
Why doesn't he compliment Yao? The Rockets need a guy that can provide some offense in case Landry goes down. Tyler can do that by getting to the line and hitting open shots.
Getting to the line in the NBA for Tyler won't be as easy as in college. Hustling in the paint will help,but I don't think his low post game is refined,shooting wise he is better but not much more than Scola or Landry. We need lateral quickness,speed,rebounding,shotblocking and height on our team to complement Yao.
He's not athletic and won't be able to create his own offense in the pro's. His best bet for scoring points will be off his reliable mid-range jumper and off hustle/garbage points underneath the basket. Of course, having strength/athleticism helps when playing in the trenches like that so he'll struggle mightily at times but his motor and high basketball IQ could be enough for him to carve out his own niche coming off the bench for a team. Again, I see a Darius Songalia type being his best case scenario -- and not that there's anything wrong with that. Just don't go thinking he'll be some big time effective scorer on the next level because that simply won't happen.
I don't see him as big time scorer, just someone of the bench that can score. If the Rockets get a low first round pick, all you are really looking for is someone who can make the team and has potential to get in rotation. If you get a starter, that is a lot of luck. Hustle points, rebounding, knocking down open shoots, and drawing contact are the things I think he can bring for the Rockets. I see him as a player that wouldn't be a able to bump Scola or Landry. I see him as a guy that could help if we lose one of those guys.
I don't think Hansbrough turning into the player you are describing is out of the realm of possibility. All i'm saying is if he's going to become a bench scorer he needs to bring something to the table other than just a mid-range jumper and some scrappiness underneath the basket. Given that his upside is minimal, i'm skeptical that he could ever do that.
Well, he's a winner that's arguably been the best player on deep tournament teams and an NCAA Championship team. "Winners" generally know how to play the game the right way and don't get caught making stupid mistakes. He has a good overall feel for the game. He plays within himself, knows his limitations and rarely ever gets caught gambling or doing anything costly. He's great at reading defenses and initiating contact -- I remember reading something he drew fouls on something like 20% of his possessions. If he's going to play on the next level he needs to use his basketball IQ and solid fundamentals to overcome what he lacks in the athleticism department. I'm sure he knows all this and given his work ethic and understanding of the game, it's a safe bet he'll try his best to improve as much as he can to offset what he lacks in raw athleticism and leaping ability. Make no mistake about it: he's a smart player and i'm not just saying this because he's white (if that's what you were getting at).