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How about them Cowgirls?

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  1. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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  2. SwoLy-D

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    You said everything I wanted to say, sir... but... the last score was an awesome GOVERNOR'S CUP WIN by the TEXANS... so... who's whose B!+ch? :eek:
     
  3. basso

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    i've been a cowboys fan since before the merger. back then, if you lived in Houston, or anywhere in Texas really, and followed the NFL, you rooted for the Cowboys. Houston had the Oilers, but they were AFL, which just wasn't the same, at least not yet.

    and in any case, although we lived in Houston, we spent summers in San Augustine, and later Nacogdoches, so you rooted for the 'Boys, and you hated the Deadskins...allegiances formed young are the strongest.

    ...and last night's game was uniquely painful. i just don't understand the play call at the end of the first half. why not take a knee? and once Romo realized he had no one to throw to, why not just fall down? and choice, once he had the ball- why was he fighting for more yards? i guess instinct kicks in t some point.

    perhaps JG thought they could hit a quick pass and kick a field goal, but they realistically needed 30-35 yards, and you can't make that play, and call timeout, in 4 seconds. just an epic fail all around, coaches, players.

    but still, they were in a position to win, but Barron has no business being on a pop warner field, much less in the NFL. he should be unceremoniously cut (that hold was not his only one, and there were several others that weren't called.)

    Jerry should suck it up, pay Bob Kraft's price, and trade for Logan Mankins.

    oh, and i don't hate the Texans, in fact I'm learning to like them. but i have no connection to them- my Houston team is playing in Nashville.
     
  4. SwoLy-D

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    ^ that "shovel pass" was HIGH RISK. A veteran QB wouldn't have made that. No, wait... a veteran QB would have done that A LOT BETTER, both on the receiving end (that's what she said) and in the giving end. :eek:

    When they showed Ware on the ground and then cut away to Jones up in the booth, I thought for sure they'd catch him having a heart attack a'la SNL's SuperFans. I, for one, was hoping he'd go down to the sidelines so we could catch some FACEPALMs... :eek:
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Tony Romo is an idiot. Just a blooper waiting to happen.

    The playcall was a HAIL MARY PASS. And he tosses it to the RB? LOL.
     
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    yes, because he couldn't plant and throw downfield.
     
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    Then you take the sack and play it safe.

    The chance of you scoring that far out on a play like that is essentially zilch.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Then slide. That play is fine when there is time to run another play, not when it's the last play of the half.

    He and Jessica couldn't make it work because they are too much alike.
     
  9. Major

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    That sounds good in theory, but it never really happens. Falling down would make sense, but you never see it. Taking an actual sack is the worst thing because that's the situation most likely to result in a fumble. Normally, a dumpoff pass doesn't really hurt you, and QB's throw it all the time in that situation. Brees, on his own 30, threw a 2 yard dump off to end the half on Thursday night. I don't think anyone would accuse him of being a stupid QB.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    Another problem the Cowboys have is that Jerry Jones is the GM.

    Really?

    Why do some owners think getting so involved is a good idea?
     
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    He can slide feet first...in fact, if he just drops to the ground, the defense just touches him to end the half. There is zero risk of a fumble.

    Completely idiotic decision on Romo's part...I understand he is trying to make a play, but at that point, the half is already over. A player that tries to do too much is a dangerous one (Rosenfels is a prime example).
     
  12. Major

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    Absolutely - but you never, ever see that in that situation.

    Agreed in theory. But nevertheless, it's a decision made almost universally over just dropping to the ground.
     
  13. Major

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    In addition to Brees this year, Schaub did this twice last year. Vs the Titans, Schaub threw a 4 yard pass to Slaton from his own 41 to end the half. Vs. the Cardinals, Schaub also threw a 4 yard pass to Slaton from his own 20 to end the half. That's not a knock on Schaub - it's simply what QB's do in those situations.

    If you look at other QB's, you'll find the same thing very consistently. This play is just in the spotlight because Choice fumbled the ball.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Were the Schaub and Brees plays safe checkdown passes or shovel passes while they were running out of the pocket? Romo's was a high risk scramble and shovel. Even if Choice doesn't fumble, Romo was being careless.

    Here's the video.

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    I'm from East Texas. I have to be a Cowboy fan, it's in my blood, but I can't stand the wretched excess of Jerry. Paradox? Yes.

    But occasionally it's a healthy thing to get the hubris b****-slapped out of you.
    The Boys were obviously the better team last night, they just played like dumbasses. Now maybe they will quit re-reading all the pre-season hype and go to work.
     
  16. Major

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    Not really sure. But I don't see what was dangerous about Romo's play. There's no defender near Choice, so if he doesn't catch it, it's just an incomplete pass. In all 4 cases, the ball got to the target just fine. In none of the cases was the play likely to result in a TD. It seems like if one of them is wrong, all of them are wrong. And I agree - falling down is the smartest decision on a risk vs. reward basis there. My point is just that all QBs do it. Normally, the recipient doesn't fumble, or if he does, it's not returned for a TD so the play is just forgotten.

    A similar example of this play was Garrett Gilbert in the championship game. He threw a shovel pass straight ahead that ended up getting returned for a TD at the end of the half - that was even the playcall by design. Everyone criticized it, but it's a play that happens all the time. No one really thinks about all the times that the guy just gets tackled and everyone runs off to halftime.
     
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    the play by romo was borderline stupid. There is not point in arguing about wether it was a bonehead play or not.

    If you want to classify Romo as a bonehead players...why not just look at all the other, non-disputable, bonehead plays he has done?
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    Was it a forward pass though? Looked pretty darn close to me.
     
  19. Major

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    Yeah - it was definitely forward. Both Romo and Choice were parallel but running forward so basically, the two players and the ball all went forward together, so it sorta looks like a lateral. If it had been a backwards lateral, that's a whole different story and has an extra element of danger to it.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Fair enough. People may be jumping on Romo too much. Wade and Choice deserve some blame too.
     

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