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How about picking up JJ Reddick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 30, 2008.

  1. GATER

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    Not just "NO" but HELL F'IN' NO!!!!!!!!!

    It was a terrible idea during draft discussions and it's worse now.

    And "yes"...I've have NBALP...and "yes"...I've watched a few of his 166 whole minutes this season...and "yes"...as predicted, opponents post him up and abuse him in the low block and "yes"...as predicted, he can't get his shot off effectivley vs taller, more athletic players than he feasted on at Duke.

    Forget-about-it!!!
     
  2. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Clutch needs to change the people who have abilities to rate threads to be only veterans, rookies must not have privileges.

    this is an excellent discussion because Mike James and Steve Francis are bench warmers who aren't consistent shooters.
     
  3. poprocks

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    Where has anyone mentioned Mike James and Francis? This thread is about getting Reddick. Nothing more.

    By the way, I'll just put in my plug for Morey. He's the best thing that has happened to the Rockets in a long time.

    What happened to all our draft picks from 1998? Remember, the one where we passed up on Rashard Lewis and selected:

    Michael Dickerson at No. 14 and Bryce Drew at No. 16. and at No. 18 Mirsad Turkcan. :rolleyes:
     
  4. tinman

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    Yeah I remember.. I also remember us selecting Rocket Hero Cuttino Mobley in the 2nd round. Not only a solid player with charisma and skill, but a needed friend for our franchise rookie.

    i also remember Robert Horry and Sam Cassell, those picks turned out good.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Ahem

    J.J. is a better player than Luther, better shooter, better finisher, better defender, better handle. He just hasn't got minutes to prove it yet. I would trade for him if we could make a deal work with some combo of Snyder's, James', Heads' salaries getting him back plus whatever. You'd have to offer Orlando some cap relief by throwing in Head and some expiring and possibly add a pick. I'd do it. I think J.J. could turn into a shooting Mike Bibby under Adelman.
     
  6. tinman

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    good post fellow veteran,

    we just need some dudes who can hit shots when yao is covered and they are left with open jumpers. JJ can shoot great if no one is covering him.
     
  7. DonkeyMagic

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    so youre saying he's better, despite having been unable to prove it, other than speculation... :confused:

    "J.J. could turn into a shooting Mike Bibby ".. :eek: :confused: :eek:
     
  8. smoove shoez

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    The sixers want expiring contracts and picks...Kyle Korver would have been a nice addition to the Rockets he can flat out shoot.. :mad: :mad: the jazz :mad: :mad:
     
  9. JayZ750

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    what are you basing this on, exactly? how do you come to this conclusion?

    Oh. Ok. I get it. You're crazy.

    And Luther can shoot fine too. Unfortunately, contrary to popular belief, in the NBA, you don't get that many wide open shots, even with a double-team commanding big man like Yao.

    Luther, unlike JJ, has proven he can at least be a competent NBA player. Moreover, he's proven that when the open shot isn't there, he can penetrate and he can get a covered 3 off, and he can have a mid-range game. Luther can not play defense. I expect JJ would be even worse though, given he only has 5 pounds and 1 inch on Luther, but isn't nearly as athletic.

    Luther's problem is the same as everyone else in our backcourt. He's allergic to Tracy. Tracy plays, Luther comes off the bench, can't get going, there is no offensive flow, etc. Tracy's out, Luther starts, the flow is better, he gets big minutes and is a positive contributor (even if, as in the last game, his 3 isn't falling).

    FYI: I'm not advocating trading T-Mac. Nor am I ignoring the fact that we've generally had an easier schedule when T-Mac has been out. Just pointing out a fact. We've scored more and our offense has looked considerably better without T-Mac, with Luther and Rafer playing differently.
     
  10. haoafu

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    It's simply a nobrainer.

    JJ can shoot. It's not like stand still open shooting. It's like Peja type shooting--he can somehow get the shot off well with single coverage.

    I also don't undersand the Novak can't defend stuff. Novak sure can defend, at least not worse than Head/Alston.
     
  11. ferrarif1286

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    jj reddick sux
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    Thank you. Someone agrees with me.

    The problem with people who say there's nothing to prove that Redick is better, is that they cannot do anything to prove their case either. Defensive metrics aren't advanced enough to show which player plays the worse defense; all we can go on are our eyes and the testimonies of the coaches. SVG says Redick's defense is good but for all we know he's doing that to hype up his value. Luther Head on the other hand had to be taken out of games by JVG last year for his defensive ineptitude, and for all we know Adelman is fighting with the same problem of offense vs. defense. When I watch Head defend, I can't believe with his quickness that he has such poor reflexes and lets people blow by him at will. Brooks is tiny tiny, but at least he can keep people in front of him.

    I can attest after watching Redick throughout college (in person oftentimes) that although he started out as a deadeye shooter, by the time he was done he was just as good a cutter and a finisher in the paint as anyone in his year. He continued showcasing his complete offensive game in the summer league this past year where he turned many heads. Yes, I know "that was college", and "that was the summer league, JL3 was the MVP of that", but what else can I offer if he is not going to be given playing time this year after dealing with injuries last year. There is no question in my mind that Redick is a heads-and-shoulders superior offensive player than Head, a perfect type of player to make a contribution under the Rockets' style of offense, and on defense it is at the least a wash between the two. I mean, when you gauge defense by "upf, he let another one go by", there's no degree that someone can be worse is there?
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    thats not always a good thing. people agreed with hitler too ;)
     
  14. Spacemoth

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    I still don't see an argument anywhere. You probably can't look past the fact that Duke beat your college and hate on Battier too for it.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    wow. talk about left field. at least my comment was funny. I dont care about college...this is a grown folks/NBA discussion. An NBA were redick is just another great college player who cant hack it in the pros. sorry :(
     
  16. pgabriel

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    and I don't see how anyone can make an argument for him seeing he doesn't get any playing time. he isn't exactly competing with nash and barbosa. if he could be had straight up for james, why not james doesn't play. but luther head has shown much more value even this season than j.j.
     
  17. DonkeyMagic

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    he's probably just mad b/c his precious blue devil player isnt an MVP candidate. Bogans owns JJ... ouch!
     
  18. JayZ750

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    i agree completely. I'm willing to say JJ may have some hidden talent we are all unaware of, but I wouldn't give up a rotation player for him.
     
  19. Hayesfan

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    Bogans who was released from our team.

    Why would we want someone on our team that can't even beat a player that we released?
     
  20. Spacemoth

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    Like I said, "you can't prove he's better than" isn't a viable argument. Give me something, anything, which shows me Head still deserves to be our backup SG. If he's really, as John Granato claims, "our best 3-point shooter", then why is he shooting 35.1% on 131 attempts halfway through the season?

    When looking for trade scenarios, first you look at your team's needs, then you look at people on other teams that fit those needs who might be possibilities to move. JJ Redick, who has been on the news lately bc his agent has asked for the Magic to trade him, plugs right in there as an option, but he is by no means the only one. Right now the Rockets' biggest problem, even more than PG play since it encompasses it, is finding capable guards that can shoot the open three. That's the main problem with Rafer, not his turnovers or lack of assists or even his finishing near the paint, which is sporadically improving. Once we open the lane by keeping defenses honest, alot of our other offensive woes will be solved as well. The Rockets are 24th in the league in 3pt shooting. As for individuals
    , we finally got one on the first page, congrats to Battier at 37.9%. Oy.
     

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