If the Rockets had Camby and needed a guard, would you trade him for Alston and a bunch of other crap?
Heh really puts a damper on the whole discussion when you put it that way. Let's pretend they feel generous for the sake of conversation. God knows we could use some in this atmosphere of breaking news.
Well we may not get him but that is more because Houston is not looking at him he was a good player but Houston does not seem to be looking at him as as a player who helps improve the team even though no question he is a better NBA player than consistently mentioned Joe Smith.
How about Golden State with their $10 MM trade exception, a bigman prospect in Patrick O'Bryant, and a first rounder? Seattle now also has a huge trade exception from sign and trading Rashard Lewis, so they could easily facilitate a deal to a contender in the east, or could even pick up Camby themselves and deal him at the deadline. If I were running Denver, there's no way I trade Camby prior to the season, considering there's no way to tell how far back Kenyon Martin is from his injuries, that your window for winning is perilously small with Iverson, and dealing away the DPOY isn't going to help there, and there's no need to be under the Luxury Tax threshold until the very end of the season, meaning if the Nuggets become also-rans by the All-Star Break, they can deal away Camby at a significant premium to a team loading up for the stretch run. I do believe that Denver is a great trading partner for the Rockets, as their surplus is in the frontcourt, while Houston's is in the backcourt. If Steve Blake doesn't resign, they're running extremely thin at point and shooting guard, as Iverson must slide over and take the majority of the ballhandling duties. They also have 5 pivots in Camby, Martin, Nene, Evans and Najera, so likely one of them will be the odd man out. Rafer Alston for Reggie Evans works straight up; though I hate the trade, considering I'd prefer Hayes over Evans regardless of the additional year of salary added on, and point guards who can control tempo are far better in-season trade chips than undersized rebounding power-forwards, who seem to be everywhere in the D-League. Alston for Najera would be a steal for us, but with Denver's tax concerns, is unlikely to happen. The deal I would propose would be: Head Sura for Najera Kleiza From the Rockets' end, Snyder, or John Lucas III, or Novak, or Lucas and Novak could all be added if Denver wanted them. In this deal, Denver swaps an expiring contract for a partially guaranteed one; a minor difference to most teams, but critically important for those whom the luxury tax is a concern. Head gives them a very consistent deep shooter, which they've been lacking for a long time. I really believe that Head will add to his game considerably next year, even if it's just the ability to hit a jumper off of a one dribble fake. Houston is able to reduce roster clutter with this deal while balancing the roster. Kleiza is a pretty decent deep bench guy who came on at the end of last year nicely, and whom the Rockets were rumored to have targeted last year at the deadline as a Juwan Howard replacement. Najera is a good veteran who fills a need, while still preserving salary flexibility.
Houston Rockets Incoming Marcus Camby 11.2 PPG 11.7 RPG Outgoing Rafer Alston 13.3 PPG 3.4 RPG A Bunch of Other Crap 1.4 PPG 0.7 RPG Outlook: -3.5 PPG +7.6 RPG -2.7 And1PG +1WinPG Successful Scenario
no of course not, but rather one-sided looking trades go down every single year. not saying this will be one, but sometimes reasons for a trade go beyond the surface. i think they can do better, BUT, if they are forced to get out of luxury tax land, they'd get a pg in alston, a shooter in head, and a salary dump in spanoulis and sura. unlikely but not crazy.
The only thing more certain than fans coming up with my-no-potential-crap-for-your-allstar trade scenarios is that other fans will think that such trade can be bad for us. If Denver actually bothered to call up the Rockets with a deal that involves Camby, but not Yao or T-Mac, we should be dancing with joy. The problem is that the Rockets, in addition to being a contender in Denver's conference, has no high-potential prospects crucial for these deals. This makes me partially lament for the departure of Gay. Gay is infinitely more valuable than Battier for teams wishing to dump salary: rookie contract, high upside.
This is my question. But we also have to make a distinction: it's not the cap teams have to worry about so much as the luxury tax threshold and there is a world of difference between the two (about 12 million worth of a difference). I think there are tons of teams who would be interested in Camby and could pony up some lesser contracts and expiring deals to make it happen. I am not sure who has an 8-mil trade exception to use (Golden State? Seattle?), but there are other teams who could make it happen. Atlanta could trade Pachulia plus one of their expiring contracts and that would save Denver a couple of million plus give them someone decent in return. Teams like Toronto, New Jersey, and Milwaukee all have the need and the cap room if they can figure out a way to make it happen logistically.
Wait, what? ...Camby? Seriously? we have enough 30+ former DPOYs on the rotation. A trade for Camby would be a disaster'. whee
The ones i see a potential trades are : Camby , ethan thomas, drew gooden , or even nene , haslem ; But all this are contigent on what we have to give to acquire them I think Camby is the perfect fit : yao, camby, shane, tmac ,mjames. Rafer and Sura for Camby will for for us !!!!
