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How abot trading Brooks to keep Lowry?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dakeem1, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. thetatomatis

    thetatomatis Member

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    Yeah they do have alot of flexibility. The only that that itches at the back of my Brain is what kind of Yao do we get back? That makes a huge difference in this whole season to me. He has to be healthy and ready to go for all games at least enough to do 28 a night in minutes and not get hurt the whole season. Any in and out or stoppage could be stalling the Rockets this season. He is the hugest variable. Literally and figuritively. If he just does that 28 minutes and solid play? We are top 5 maybe? Somewhere near Denver and Dallas. with Yao? Thats a question mark though.
     
  2. leebigez

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    I said it before, if the rox dont extend or trade him, he will be in sacramento making 9m per playing next to evans. Petrie is rebuilding that team very fast and they've been after brooks for awhile.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    I wouldnt doubt it. Brooks needs to be extended if we are gonna keep him or trade him if not. No use in any of these talks about who is the best if Brooks intends to leave. Morey needs to either know how Brooks is leaning and get some type of verbal commitment of some sort or get to trading him anyways if we are gonna lose him. Some team will overpay him if he goes off for another 19 points this season to show last year wasnt a fluke. So we need to get that end situated with knowing if he is leaning towards staying or going first.
     
  4. durvasa

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    Brooks - Evans - Casspi - Landry - Cousins

    That's some lineup.
     
  5. EffTheJazz!!!

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    I like Lowry, but hes more of a backup spark kinda guy.. we cant have a starting pg that cant shoot.

    Plus, Brooks isnt as easily replaceable by another pg as you make it sound...
     
  6. rhino17

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    It's like you can't root for both, you have to chose ONE! If you like Brooks, that means you automatically hate Lowry and vice versa
     
  7. dakeem1

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    This thread isn't about who is better.
    BROOKS IS BETTER THAN LOWRY! (I'm the OP btw). I never argued that he wasn't better than Lowry. All I was saying is that it is better for this team to trade Brooks for equal or better value as it helps the team.

    DUH! Lowry is a role player. Who the hell actually says he is an allstar in the making? None of the so-called "lowry lover" are saying he is allstar calibre... only that it is a better upgrade for the team if Brooks is traded for equal or better value, and then Lowry starts.
     
  8. thetatomatis

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    and i agree with you. I would love to trade him to get Ganger, Paul, or Carmello Anthony.
     
  9. rock4ever

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    What ur essentially saying is it's BETTER to trade Brooks. But it's NOT better to trade Brooks. First of all, he's the quickest guy in the league and can basically get to anywhere on the floor. Second, he can create his own shot. Third, he's a great 3pt shooter which will make for great spacing with Yao. Lastly, he has shown flashes of being clutch. Who exactly would you get to replace Aaron Brooks? Oh ok, I take it you'd rather take you ur chances waiting 3 more years for a unproven Ricky Rubio :rolleyes:
     
  10. CaptainRox

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    Yes and Granger is ball dominating unlike AB when he and Martin worked well
     
  11. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    Signed, the best player on the Boston Celtics.

    [​IMG]

    Did you even watch the Finals?
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Trading away your best clutch player is basically kissing advancing in the playoffs good bye.

    Also Brooks had a great season WITHOUT Yao to create perimeter space for him, imagine what Brooks can do now if they double team him and he's able to get the ball to Yao.

    Could be a great 2 man game.
     
  13. waytookrzy079

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    W3RD!!

    Couldn't have said it better myself...

    With as much as beating Yao's feet has taken over the last 5 years, I can see Adelman and Co. using Yao at the high post more rather than in the Low Post (similar to Vlade Divac under Adelman)...that's where Yao took the most beating.

    When the game gets close down the stretch, i can see Yao moving to the low post more at that time.

    Once Yao sets that pick up top, AB can dish it right to him for a medium range jumpshot which Yao has shown that he can hit.

    AB during the first half of last season was dishing to HAYES, ARIZA, and BATTIER...Ariza was inconsistent, and Battier had a down year shooting.

    Once Martin joined the team, Ariza got better and so did AB's assist numbers.

    Before the trade for Martin, AB was averaging under 5 assists/game. After the trade, just under 6. Add Yao... another 2 assists is very likely.

    AB will average around 17+ ppg, 8+ assists/game...Book it!
     
  14. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Hey, let us know when we have KG, Pierce and Ray Allen surrounding our PG, thus opening up gaping holes to the rim.

    Until then, this not even close to apt comparison must cease, our team is built differently.

    Thanks

    DD
     
  15. thetatomatis

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    Kinda agree with both things. Brooks is a much better player and I think we should trade him for some huge upgrade to put along side Yao, Scola, Patterson, Lowry, and Ariza. Insert big name here with that lineup________. Then Budinger as Backup to said guy.

    Maybe Battier, Hill, and picks also lost in trade with Brooks. Maybe add Ariza too if its Granger or Carmello?


    Thats current lineup with those gone?

    Yao/Hayes/Miller
    Scola/Patterson/Hays
    Granger/Jeffries
    Martin/JT/Budinger
    Lowry/JT/Smith from d-league

    of course i wouldnt mind

    Yao/Hayes/ Miller
    Scola/Hill/Patterson
    Ariza/Battier
    Martin//Budinger
    Brooks/Lowry

    or trade involving Yao???

    Yao Ming, Knicks draft pick and swap, Jermain Taylor, and Ariza for Carmello Anthony and Chris Anderson, and Aaron Affalo

    our lineup looke like?

    C Anderson/Hayes
    Scola/Hill/Patterson
    Carmello/Battier
    Martin/Budinger/Affalo
    Brooks/Lowry
     
  16. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    I would love to trade Brooks.

    Except there's no one that we really need. Let's say we traded Brooks, and resigned Scola.

    Lowry / ?
    Martin / Budinger
    Ariza / Battier
    Scola / Hill / Patterson
    Yao / Hayes / ?

    We would need to trade for someone that can usurp a starter's role, plus a backup PG, PLUS a backup C, since Andersen just can't cut it, and Hayes is just not that good on offense.

    Brooks for a backup PG, backup C, and someone good.

    No team would do that, and we wouldn't trade Brooks for less than three people and maybe picks.

    Therefore, we are at a standstill; therefore, we won't / shouldn't trade Brooks.

    Can't just trade someone just because his value is high. Makes no front office sense.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If we do trade Brooks it would probably be for someone like CP3, which keeps Lowry where he is anyway.

    DD
     
  18. AggieRocketsFan

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    I would tell you that's no suprise because we ALL know our defensive was turrible last year. Defense is a team strategy, battier/ariza can't do it alone.
     
  19. UTAllTheWay

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    First off, it would be great to get Granger. Personally, I'd be willing to give up just about anything (except Yao, Martin, and Scola) to get him. I mean, the guy shoots around 40% from 3-point range despite being forced to create for himself most of the time. Can you imagine what he would do around a guy like Yao?

    The problem is, he's extremely important to a team like Indiana that's planning on bringing in a bunch of new guys next offseason. As it looks right now, they'll be at about $15-20 million in salary next offseason (with Granger), which means they'll have about $40-45 million to help fill their team and bring in new talent. Why would they want to give up their best player if they are in that position?
     
  20. Htown's2kFinest

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    never would do that deal if we have to give up both Ariza and Battier. we lose probably our two best perimeter defenders. but would do it if we keep Ariza. :grin: one MIP player for the other.
     

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