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How abot trading Brooks to keep Lowry?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dakeem1, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. rocketschamp3

    rocketschamp3 Member

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    idk i think before morey trades brooks he got to look at that all these guys have good chemistry toghether
     
  2. slickricky

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    if i had the youtube of granger and tj ford lighting us up last year what would you say? and that is with battier and ariza defending and they are top 5 sf defenders
     
  3. wekko368

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    Sam, forget those statistics. Statistics don't tell the entire story and are therefore useless.

    And since they're useless, I'll tell you what you need to know. Brooks is a young Tony Parker-esque guard who is coming off his first full season as a starter where he won the MIP award. I'm not sure how, but I expect him to improve tremendously. And since he started last year, he's obviously superior to Lowry regardless of who else is on the roster. MIP!!

    Weak defense? Don't worry, he'll improve his defense and get stronger while retaining his speed. Remember those massive improvements during his MIP season? That was just on offense. Wait till you see what he'll do on defense this year.

    Subpar court vision? Who cares? His court vision is good enough to put the ball in the basket from 30 feet away!!! MIP!!!

    Trouble getting the ball to Yao? The answer is obvious. Trade Yao. We didn't have Yao last year, and we ALMOST made the playoffs!! And look at the strides Brooks made!! MIP!!! You simply don't trade a young MIP coming off his first full season as a starter.

    And who cares that he didn't make the all-star team? He's all-star caliber. Even though multiple western conference all-star guards were injured and Brooks wasn't selected as a replacement, he's still obviously all-star caliber. And you don't trade all-star caliber players.

    But then again, the more I think about it, the more I realize that he should only be traded if it makes the team better. As such, if he is traded, we should accept nothing less than a superstar and some first round draft picks. And btw, Bosh doesn't count as a superstar.
     
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  4. thetatomatis

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    Jeezus. Now I know why we never get anything done here. Some people want Danny Granger but dont want to give anything up to get him. Its the same in every thread. You have to get the allstar talent here first. Then build around him. You cant have anything unless you have the guy here first to work with the team. Depth can be built later and filled in. The most important parts you have to get them first and then worry about these secondary role players and draft picks. Some people are backwards. You want a team of role players first then lue in a free agent? What if we dont lure in a free agent or draft a guy? Then what? Gonna keep waiting? You get the talent here first. Then surround him. Thats always been the best way. ALWAYS!
     
  5. rhino17

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    Like I said, for the other guys, Odom still plays starters minutes. Not to mention he started about the same amount of games as Vlad and Walton did. They each only played 17mpg individually while Odom played 30 mpg.

    Better players never come off the bench and do NOT play starters minutes. That would make no sense. The Brooks and Lowry differential is pretty big too.... plays 12 mpg more than Lowry

    You failed to look up the minutes played by the rest of the team. Duncan and Tony P played 34 mpg, Bowen and Manu played 30 mpg, and Finley played 27mpg. No one else played more than 20 mpg. Thus, he still played starters minutes

    Ha, except Kidd is one of the greatest passers and rebounding PGs of all time. Rondo is a similar player but way better than Lowry at everything.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You are wasting your time, you can not convince the Kyle mancrushers that he is not the best PG Evah !

    All kidding aside we are lucky to have both Kyle and Aaron it makes the Rockets more versatile as a team.

    But the whole Lowry brigade is backup quarterback syndrome to the fullest.

    DD
     
  7. Ottomaton

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    Backup quarterback syndrome is a function of only seeing the QB in the preseason against the other team's fourth stringers. We've all seen both Brooks and Lowry play against good players in games that matter.

    Therefore, your statement is blatantly false.
     
  8. rock4ever

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    U guys are misreading Lowry's skill level. He's a PACE CHANGER. But if you put him in the starting lineup with Yao, Martin and Ariza his role will CHANGE into stretching out the floor and hitting open 3's which isnt exactly his quality. That's why Brooks should start every game for us. Brooks' ability to hit open 3's and create is a no brainer to who should be the starter. Are you guys serious?
     
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  9. rhino17

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    Yep, I'm done. Some of these people are just absurd. If Lowry was so much better, why would Adelman not be starting him or at least be playing him more or as much as AB?
     
  10. DaDakota

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    No your definition of backup quarterback syndrom is patentenly false.

    There are many cases where people pine for a backup QB, where they have played in the regular season, sort of rotational.

    This is a case of some folks liking a certain STYLE of play over another, and thus choosing a player they would rather have running their team.

    I don't mind, I think Brooks and Lowry are a little bit like Smith and Cassell, whichever one is playing the best is probably the one that is going to finish the game, which is more important than whomever started it anyway.

    I do however consider Aaron Brooks to be the better overall basketball player.

    DD
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    If you could, please find a single instance of the phrase being used in that context.

    Thanks.
     
  12. wekko368

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    I didn't fail to do anything. You made a contention. I proved it utterly wrong. And you still have the audacity to argue.

    Next time, just checks your stats before posting.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Nah, I will let you go out and find all the different variations and post them here.

    I look forward to reading your research.

    Thanks,

    DD

    PS. You could probably start last year with Vince Young in Tennessee.....

    K...?
     
  14. Ottomaton

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    Done.

    No examples exist in the context you claim.

    You are wrong.

    Apology accepted.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Accepted.

    Isn't arguing semantics a WOOT !!!!

    Gosh, now we can argue more about ambiguous definitions.....

    WOOOBOY !!! OH BOY !

    DD
     
  16. rhino17

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    I was utterly wrong? Is that why the stats backed up what I said and not what you said? The very stats you posted? :rolleyes:
     
  17. thetatomatis

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    Some of these fans are absurd. Lowry is nothing more than a pace setter and defensive stopper when AB on occasion has trouble matching the bigger guards in league when gaurding them. Lowry was the same in Memphis. Couldnt start over whats his face Conelly or whoever insert no name they had there. For the minutes he gets and Brooks deficiencies he compliments Brooks weaknesses and change of pace perfectly. Nothing more than backup syndrome just like the Landry lovers. At least there was more meat to the Landry backup syndrome in that he is younger than Scola and sould actually outscore him and may be better. May be? No such closeness in AB to Lowry. Lowry is a bit role player the likes of Andre Miller at best. AB is a starter the likes Kevin Johnson potentially and at least can be put up there in regards to outputing other points like Rose on occasion and the elite point guards at some time during some games. Lowry is a good player. thats it.
     
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  18. slickricky

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    AMEN!!!
     
  19. DaDakota

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    You sir clearly understand the game of basketball.

    :)

    DD
     
  20. Ottomaton

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    [rquoter]
    There are many cases where people pine for a backup QB, where they have played in the regular season, sort of rotational.

    [/rquoter]

    Vince Young does not meet the criteria that you set down. He was in no way "rotational" with Kerry Collins before he became full time starter.

    Next example?
     

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