A few incidents does include a low-down, cowardly, no character sucker punch away from a play. Fighting in the heat of the moment is one thing. He calculated a punch that could have done real damage. I'm sensitive to the sucker punch in general. One almost killed Rudy T. If you want to fight someone, that's completely different if it's a fair fight. Sucker punching is completely different. His history in the NBA of dead-ball flops, fighting, etc. doesn't seem to indicate any remorse or a one-time incident.
ok...so we shouldn't add a player of his caliber who, when he was 18 years old, punched a guy in the crotch, huh? really? and we lost all right to complain about flopping when we re-signed Scola. that guy is a haircut short of playing for Utah.
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I don't see him coming here unless he tells both Morey and Les that here is somewhere that he wants to be. We have to much at stake to be stuck with another Pippen situation (even though he did want to come here). If CP3 ends up a Rocket it will be because he wants to be a part of this team. Morey is way too smart to have it any other way.
Thats because we like pansies like Yao. Well some of us do. I like tough players like Hakeem who through many punches at many players and even slapped a few during games. He was tough and so was Maxwell, Elie, and Otis Thorpe. I dont like pansies. I love players like Paul who are tough mentally. Of course our fanbase loves shoir boys like Bagwell, Tmac, Yao, David carr and their obsessive defending of that man until he left kinda like Yao, soft coaches like Kubiak, and they all win nothing. They dont have dominant personalities. Thatskinda why I like Brooks actually and Paul they are both kind of tough. I am not sold on Kevin Martin yet. He kinda seems Charmin to me.
I am sorry I mean threw many punches at players faces like Hakeem used to when he first came in the league. Also I meant Choir boys AKA David Carr, Yao, Kevin Martin, Kubiak, Tmac, You know? The loveable losers we always get but tend to like?
Anyone who has a bone fracture in his foot and comes back help his team win a crucial game is not a pansy. Yao is no longer a pansy since 2-3 years ago. As for Paul and his antics, you guys need to understand that he is the fiercest of competitors in the mold of Kobe. He will do anything to win, and if that includes playing unorthodox from time to time or being nasty on the court, then he will. Paul is a winner. If people are concerned about Paul being a two-year rental, I can assure you that it will not be the case. Can you tell me one player who did not have attitude issues that did not want to re-up with HOU in recent years?
I'd be thrilled to get Paul, assuming he signed an extension... elite talent, still young. And this Paul doesn't fit stuff is nonsense. Talent fits. Basketball players fit.
You people want Carmello Anthony dont you? Think bigger for a moment... Carmello Anthony could decide not to sign an extention if Paul comes here. He could become a free agent next year and he and Paul have stated openly they want to play on a team together that has a chance of winning the Championship. So??? Paul has two years left on his contract he has to stay here and Carmello could consider coming here. Yaos contract is off the books next season. We can sign Carmello Anthony to go with Chris Paul. We immediately become his favorite destination to come to. sNT perhaps? Trade Yao for Carmello in the middle of the season? Why would they do it? Because Carmello sees his friend here and demands a trade to play on his team? Its the Miami situation all over again. You have to have either Paul first or Carmello to get the other. Thats not fantasy. The trio just proved it and Paul and Carmello have been talking about it. They have a third player Martin on their team and Scola as their starters for a Championship roster. Of course they would want to sign onto a lineup of?? Brad Miller/Hayes Scola/Patterson Carmello/Ariza Martin/ Budinger Paul/Lowry
Forget Chris Paul. These rumors have listed about 5-7 teams and none of them are Houston. Time to shift focus on Granger any ways. ***INITIATE PLAN B***
Nope, but honestly Granger might be the best improvement to this team. Also he doesn't seem to be a guy who cares what city he plays in. He's a big SF with a great shooting touch and can play good defense. He's like Ariza x50
Another point of focus is it doesnt matter this time if we are Pauls target destination or not. Its not up to him. Its up to NO to get what they can for him in a trade. Paul can be convinced to stay or can add Carmello to help ease his decision to stay or trade Yao and he makes long playoff run and decides Houston is right for him? You have two years to figure it out or trade him again for an equal to allstar all over again.
Another thing is? How did Granger ever become part of our conversation of tradeably gettable players? We just added him onto our own personal wishlist of players we want? Well thats not gonna hapen unless they are considering moving him. Which they are not for a team that needs its young talent who scores 26 points a game to build around. They are not shopping him and we are just grocer admiring their basket full of groceries. Which cannot get unless they are willing to give him up. Which nobody has ever stated. We just pulled that scenario out of behinds because we like Granger. Doest mean its possible because we want.
Chris Paul is the best point guard in the league arguably, and he is without a doubt the best defensive point guard in the league. With this trade we would instantly be put into contention with the Lakers in the west. Paul/Lowry Martin/Budinger/Taylor Battier/Budinger Scola/Hill/Hayes Yao/Miller/Hayes assuming we give up Ariza, NY picks, Brooks, and a few salary dumps And for those worrying about him leaving Houston, to quote back to the future "you aren't thinking fourth dimensionally" meaning, You have to remember, when he is considering whether he will stay or go, we will have already experienced success in Houston, will realize how much young talent is around him, he will have his own team, and one of the best GMs/Owners in the league. Plus the Texas income tax luxury and the money on endorsements he makes in China through Yao. I am willing to take the risk of him maybe leaving in two years.
Granger is 27, about the same age as Kevin Martin was when we traded for who also wasn't being shopped. Fact is, Granger gets paid a lot of money the upcoming years, and he hasn't led that team to even sniff the playoffs. It's in Indiana's best interest to trade him. Just like the Kings with Martin.
Have they talked about it or hinted of it lately? I am more inclined to after whats more real and tangible than waiting on something that seems a little illusive and kind of dream scenarioish and hopeful. That appraoch seems unrealistic to me. Unless we ehar Morey has been inquiring about Granger and they seem to think about moving Granger first. Its kinda counter productive to go after anything else than Carmello and Chris Paul. Two knowns who are on the trading block or could be considered.
Granger has quietly been in Trade rumors, either way it's not unrealistic. Pacers aren't going any where with him, his salary is going to rise each year after this year and he'll also be getting older. Also look at who the Pacers drafted this year. It is perfectly reasonable for them to trade him. Again, Kevin Martin wasn't rumored to be shop when he was...although there were quiet rumors about it. It doesn't have to be on the front of ESPN to be a possibility. Afterall the biggest trades are always surprises.
I'm not even saying that Chris Paul isn't a possibility, but as more and more of these teams come out it seems like it's not going to be easy to get him. It could turn into a nasty bidding war.
