1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Houston's Main Target: Chris Paul

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da_Spark, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Rox_fan_here

    Rox_fan_here Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2003
    Messages:
    2,022
    Likes Received:
    128
    At first I was like :eek:

    Then I realized that the only explanation is that your a Hornets fan and now it all makes sense. :cool:
     
  2. ctry2582

    ctry2582 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,227
    Likes Received:
    27
    I don't see the Hornets trading within the division though
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,487
    Likes Received:
    19,588
    WTF does it matter? There are going to sell and move the team!

    They aren't even our rivals in the Division. We hate the Spurs and Mavs remember?

    they've traded with us multiple times before.
     
  4. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    Paul is with the same agency as Bosh, CAA. Then again Brooks, Andersen, Newley, and Eliyahu are with that agency. Maybe their mutual agent is protecting Brooks's interests?
     
  5. breerox29

    breerox29 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2010
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    Houston4Paul.com?
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    He just does not fit on this team.

    Chris Paul is a pound the ball into the ground PG, who needs it all game long, those guys do not generally win championships because the defense can figure out how to hinder a single point of attack.

    Rick Adelman's teams share the ball, everyone can be an assist guy.

    Chris Paul does NOT fit that criteria, and he would be wasted in Houston.

    DO NOT WANT !

    DD
     
  7. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,575
    This from a guy getting wet and starry-eyed over the likes of Langhi, Spanoulis, Wafer, etc.
     
  8. Jacquescas

    Jacquescas Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,186
    Likes Received:
    2

    Chris Paul is still one of the best points in this league. Our roster is chalk full of guys who don't need the ball in their hands to be effective. Martin, Scola, Battier, and Yao (only needs the ball on the blocks)

    In terms of win share, PER, or any other statistical measure Paul is far superior.

    I understand that Paul doesn't exactly fit an Adleman offense, but Rick has to be good enough to adjust slightly. Its not like he is Phil Jackson and his offense is a proven championship winner. He should fit his system to his players and if he can get one of the best players, he should adjust his system accordingly, especially since the roster already fits this type of player.
     
  9. King1

    King1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,275
    Likes Received:
    8,719
    Say no to drugs
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775
    Here are the top two assist leaders for the NBA champions for the last twenty years.

    Below is a list of all the championship teams in the last 20 years, with their regular season and playoff assists leaders (with their assist average).


    regular season --------- playoffs
    91 Bulls Pippen (6.2) Jordan (8.4)
    92 Bulls Pippen (7.0) Pippen (6.7)
    93 Bulls Pippen (6.3) Jordan (6.0)
    94 Rockets Maxwell (5.1) Olajuwon (4.3)
    95 Rockets Cassell (4.9) Drexler (5.0)
    96 Bulls Pippen (5.9) Pippen (5.9)
    97 Bulls Pippen (5.7) Jordan (4.8)
    98 Bulls Pippen (5.8) Pippen (5.2)
    99 Spurs Johnson (7.4) Johnson (7.4)
    00 Lakers Bryant (4.9) Bryant (4.4)
    01 Lakers Bryant (5.0) Bryant (6.1)
    02 Lakers Bryant (5.5) Bryant (4.6)
    03 Spurs Parker (5.3) Duncan (5.3)
    04 Pistons Billups (5.7) Billups (5.9)
    05 Spurs Parker (6.1) Parker (4.3)
    06 Heat Wade (6.7) Wade (5.7)
    07 Spurs Parker (5.5) Parker (5.8)
    08 Celtics Rondo (5.1) Rondo (6.6)
    09 Lakers Bryant (4.9) Bryant (5.5)
    10 Lakers Bryant (5.0) Bryant (5.5)


    Do you notice how not one of those teams had one guy dominating the assists?

    They shared the ball, they did not have one guy that dominated it, and was the focal point for both the offense and the defense.

    It takes a balanced attack, having one guy dominate the ball means the defense knows that too.

    We don't need Chris Paul on this team......he is not a difference maker.

    DD
     
    2 people like this.
  11. Danbury

    Danbury Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    291
    Likes Received:
    7
    Anyone who says we're not on his list of teams...so? It's not his choice. If and that's a BIG IF, he actually ends up on the trade block, New Orleans will take the best deal available. All things being equal, I'm sure they prefer to send him East, but the thing is the Rockets can outbid most everyone in the league, so all things aren't necessarily equal.

    Paul is a top 3 PG and a rare commodity in this league. I don't mind them shipping off half their talent for him. I would balk at trading Martin + a load of other players/assets though. We have no depth at the wing.

    He will no doubt try to engineer another "big 3" in NY or something, but again, as for now, it is not his choice.
     
    1 person likes this.
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,551
    Likes Received:
    38,775

    It is not that simple.....

    IF he does not want to go to a team, then that team's GM would be taking a MASSIVE risk in acquiring him because he could do exactly what Bosh and Lebron just did.

    Sorry, you don't take those risks and stay GM for long.

    DD
     
  13. Pieman2005

    Pieman2005 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2009
    Messages:
    4,070
    Likes Received:
    188
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  14. HeyDude

    HeyDude Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2001
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    43
    If you go back just a few more years, Isiah Thomas and Magic will pop up quite often. Its just that in the past 20 years, 3 of the all time greats (Jordan, Bryant, Duncan) dominated and hogged most of the championships. Unfortunately, it may happen again with the Heat now. But I just don't see how having a PG who piles up assists is a detriment to winning championships.
     
  15. Lil Lee

    Lil Lee Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Messages:
    258
    Likes Received:
    6

    Very well put!

    It would be one thing if CP3 said he wanted to come to Houston, so then I say weigh your options; however, it's not important. Our PG situation is fine. Only person I say worth looking into is Granger. Otherwise stay put, PRAY Yao stays healthy, and let's shock everybody outside of Houston come the upcoming season.
     
  16. ctry2582

    ctry2582 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,227
    Likes Received:
    27
    We know CP3 can run a squad, play quaterback in the offense.

    We all love Brooks, but can he adjust his game with Yao back?

    Keep in mind AB had basically free reign last year to attack with Yao out of the middle/no other worthwhile scorers outside of Scola.

    AB is great, but CP3 can get easier shots for everybody, and can score if need be.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    This is an interesting post. I still want Chris Paul, because while I like Aaron Brooks more as a person and think Aaron is great, Paul is better in virtually every aspect of the game (especially fg % and assists). But this is interesting perspective, I was unaware that none of the top assist guys really got a championship in recent years. What about the Lakers with Magic Johnson?

    In any case, I think we should not completely deplete our team to get Paul. If we could get him without giving up any key player other than Aaron Brooks, I would. If not, fine.
     
  18. okierock

    okierock Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2001
    Messages:
    3,132
    Likes Received:
    199
    The problem with your argument is that you don't allow for the possibilty that CP3 can function in Rick's offense. If I was CP3 with the teams he has had in NO I would dominate the ball too, that is what he has been asked to do.

    I think he is tallented enough to adjust and IMO having someone who can score on their own if the offense has failed is all we are missing. I wouldn't mind that guy being CP3. I like Brooks too but Chris Paul is better.
     
    1 person likes this.
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,487
    Likes Received:
    19,588

    http://bbs.clutchfans.com/showpost.php?p=5460914&postcount=11
     
    2 people like this.
  20. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2002
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    390
    Dada,

    Hate to disagree with you on this one but you are flat out wrong, buddy. Paul is too good. He's Lowry's level or better defensively, which blows Brooks up right there. He's just as good if not a better shooter than Brooks is. He gets to the line just as frequently as Lowry does. And most importantly, he can see the floor and hit the open man from anywhere, a skill Brooks simply does not possess. Yes, this is an Adelman offense, where the ball is shared. Dare I say, Paul will be better at sharing the ball than Brooks. How much of the time did Brooks handle, create, shoot, etc., last season? Brooks flat out dominated the basketball. Who is going to get the ball to Yao better??? Who is going to get the ball to Scola better?? Paul is Brooks (great shooter) plus Lowry (great finisher, defender, foul drawer), plus a great passer all rolled into one. He's the best point guard on planet earth right now. This is the type of player you go all in for.
     

Share This Page