WHoa...hold the phone... Ripper? from Pasadena? If its the same guys, I was hanging with those guys from just out of high school in 83.
hey mm, check your email through that's linked to the board please. i have a friend involved with this and just had a question or two for ya. thanks man.
this is ****ing horrible its an outrage i hope houston turns into a ****hole until these clubs r back open i thikn all the strippers and entertainers and ownesr should go do a naked protest outside city hall, and the general public as well
Once again, H-Town's leaders prove that holding onto anything defining to the city, no matter how quirky, will quickly be tossed aside. I'm seriously pissed about this. Houston has virtually no tourism but we do get a ton of conventions and business related stuff, which I'm sure is aided by the plethora of awesome titty bars. Morons. I heart strippers. Keep Houston Nekkid!
Speaking of Keep Houston Nekkid, has any enterprising person thought to start a campaign to let the city know how pissed off people are? www.keephoustonnekkid.com would be a good start. Alas, I'm not smart enough to start that website. It doesn't look like anyone has registered that as a domain. Variations of the word "naked" don't bring up any results....
Well they played in Pasadena I think. They were out of Houston. The lead singer was Rob Graves and the chick was Sadie Paine. They were around in '83 because I was 11 at the time and they actually came to my Bar Mitzvah in '85. If that is them, weird huh?
Max, if we're going to compare Houston pedigrees, I'll take you on. My grandmother (on my mother's side) went through the 1900 storm in the Heights, and her house came off it's blocks and floated down the street. She was a young at the time, but had vivid memories of it, sitting on a bed, hearing the wind howling, and looking at the water swirling around the floor... the place being full of neighbors who thought her house had a better shot at surviving than their own. On the other side of the family, I've got a relative with his named carved on the San Jacinto monument. Look, I just think it sounds like you came from a far different background. I truly don't believe you understand what not having zoning did to some neighborhoods that were good places to live, until they were trashed. If I have the wrong impression, I apologize, but I'm shocked that someone of your obvious intelligence (and one of my favorite posters!) prefers Houston zoning free and likes how it's turned out. Again, you just don't know what a lot of neighborhoods were like decades ago, before not having zoning, and not having much, if any, of the way of a strong homeowners association, ruined them.
Basically, it boils down to many people have had positive experiences with no-zoning and others have had unfavorable experiences with no-zoning. You take the good with the bad. I'm guessing there are some neighborhoods in Austin that have lost their appeal with zoning as well.
Lost their appeal with zoning? Some may have lost their appeal because of variances, or the interference of the Legislature, or because the zoning wasn't tight enough. "Take the good with the bad?" Get out more, RM95. Drive around some of those neighborhoods with crappy businesses made out of what were once homes. Homes falling down. Residential streets that don't look like residential streets. You know... those areas you wouldn't want to live in. Believe it or not, many of them were very nice areas. The driving force in many of them going downhill was the lack of zoning, with chumps deciding to start a business in a home, pave the front yard, go out of business months later, and then leaving that crap in the neighborhood. It's a bummer, man, and it happened a LOT in Houston. I suspect that it's still happening.
hmm, depends I guess. knowing how the scene was back then, it could very well have been a diff group....names of the various cover bands that came and went as fast as the members could have an drunken argument were the norm back then. The guys I was with formed in late 81 iirc for a school talent show, and started playing the various gamerooms and teen clubs on the east side...nothing but Sabbath, AC/DC, Priest (hence the name), etc covers
my mom's new next door neighbor has apparently decided to turn his house into a mechanic shop. parking his cars in the backyard by driving through his front yard. as a matter of fact, there's tire marks of him driving through HER yard. she's pissed, to say the least.
I'm completely with Deckard here. I grew up in Houston but have since lived in cities with zoning and urban planning and there is still plenty of quirkiness in cities like Berkeley, Minneapolis and Boston along with a lot of appeal in neigborhoods. A couple of houses down from me I've got a guy making sculptures of bowling balls in his yard and two houses on the other side someone who built an underground house. two blocks down from me I've got a neighborhood bar, a couple of small grocery stores and a small hardware store. Zoning hasn't destroyed anything but made it more rational than scatter shot development of Houston. If you find having an auto repair shop in the middle of a residential block or an empty acre of undeveloped land being used a dump in your neighborhood is appealing then don't bother to zone.
There's a reason that every major city in the US except for Houston has some type of zoning restrictions.
