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Houston Rockets had the Best Draft in 2007 (DM is a Genius)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crash5179, Dec 18, 2009.

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  1. DaDakota

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    Yeah, but Chase was drafted that year, whereas Scola was drafted in 2002.....

    Whatever, your point is still very valid in that 2007 was a VERY important year and DM did an outstanding job.

    DD
     
    #21 DaDakota, Dec 18, 2009
  2. asmith8266

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    Yeah and drafting Brad Newley over Ramon Sessions was genius.

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    Just jking yo.
     
    #22 asmith8266, Dec 18, 2009
  3. crash5179

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    Did not include Durant because there was no point. I said that in the opening paragraph. We all know Durant was the best. No argument here, what is your point?
     
    #23 crash5179, Dec 18, 2009
  4. steddinotayto

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    The Spurs drafted Scola with the intentions of actually keeping him back in 2002 but couldn't due to their reluctance to pay the luxury tax, ergo, was traded to us for cap relief a full five years later. Detroit and Seattle drafted Budinger and Landry, respectively, because we bought the draft picks in their respective draft years.
     
    #24 steddinotayto, Dec 18, 2009
  5. postaboi713

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    my point is that had u included Durant, then OKC (well Seattle at the time) also has a valid argument... dont get me wrong I'm a hardcore Rox fan but i'm just rational and impartial...
     
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  6. crash5179

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    I acknowledged that Durant was the best player... period... no question about it where is the hole in that? Is Green the best complement to Durant out of that group? Is Green better than Scola, Landry or AB? Yes OKC did the right thing by drafting Durant and I don't fault them for drafting Green (good pick and did not screw it up) but they were both early lottery picks and should be good. DM was not expected to get a borderline all star with where we were drafting but instead he got two. Throw in the Scola acquisition who was also a rookie and what DM did was many times more impressive to me than what OKC did. As of right now Scola, Landry and Brooks are working out just as good as Durant and Green.

    Why? Because you don't like him? His draft rights were acquired prior to him ever playing one second in the NBA. He was a rookie just like the rest. And the point is that he was one of 3 great moves during that off-season. The point is that DM seems to have a great talent for evaluating players prior to ever playing in the league.


    I think the Rockets had the best draft that year. Nothing misleading about the title.

    If you really want to cut hairs like this why are you including Jeff Green as a OKC pick since he was drafted by Boston? I include him as a OKC pick because OKC valued that pick more than Boston and acquired it. Makes no difference to me that they acquired after they actually made the draft pick because Green had never played a second of NBA ball.
     
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  7. crash5179

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    I think your missing my point. I'm not omitting Durant from the conversation I just did not see the point of including his stats since we already know he is in a different class and his stats are all world. Maybe I should have chosen my words better or just not been lazy and included his stats.
     
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  8. steddinotayto

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    So in other words, this thread is about how Morey is a very smart GM and makes the 'best bang for your buck" ACQUISTIONS (which I have no problem agreeing with), right?
     
    #28 steddinotayto, Dec 18, 2009
  9. juicystream

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    I would love to have gotten Gasol given where he went in the draft. He would really fit with this team, especially with all the games Yao has missed, and likely will miss in his career.
     
    #29 juicystream, Dec 18, 2009
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    It was just the wording that led me to believe you were skewing the draft to fit your own agenda but i guess i can see what you mean. Morey is good at finding gems in dirt....
     
    #30 postaboi713, Dec 18, 2009
  11. DcProWLer277

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    Scola really wasn't drafted in 07 but still a great pickup anyways.
     
    #31 DcProWLer277, Dec 18, 2009
  12. meh

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    Including Scola in the post was a mistake, especially since Brooks and Landry was already enough of a haul to make Morey a genius.

    As for having the best draft, this would be inaccurate simply because Durant >> any other player in that draft(at least so far into their careers). But a case can be made that the Rockets had the 2nd best draft after Seattle/OC. Which is pretty damn good given our low picks.
     
    #32 meh, Dec 18, 2009
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    Not counting the number 1 overall picks...

    From 1985 to 1992 were some pretty tough years. Guys like Steve Harris, Buck (the Blade) Johnson, Darrick (the bandaid) Chievous, Alec Kessler, Hohn Turner...ouch what a dry spell. I know you can't get a hit every time, but that kind of slump might indicate your scouts stink.

    We did hit it pretty good after that with Robert (big shot Rob) Horry, Sam Cassell, Cuttino Mobley, Richard Jefferson, Rudy Gay, Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, Luis Scola (Thank you SA - I hope the Rockets are still sending them a Christmas fruitcake for that one).

    Did we change scouts in 1992 or were out scouts finally catching as to who can play and who can't?
     
    #33 ArtV, Dec 18, 2009
  14. Joe Joe

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    OKC (Seattle) had best Rookie class. Houston had 2nd best rookie class, and did it with a lot weaker picks.

    I would not say Oden is a bust, yet. He is just not deserving of the number 1 pick. He really impacts the game when he plays...thats been a big when so far though.
     
    #34 Joe Joe, Dec 18, 2009
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    Durant should have been included. Aside from that, the point that crash is making here is completely valid.

    On draft day, Daryl Morey turned a late first-round draft pick, a late second-round draft pick, Vagisil Spanoulis, and some cash sitting under Les Alexander's sofa into Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, and Luis Scola. That is efficient and impressive.
     
    #35 corby, Dec 18, 2009
  16. corby

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    I seem to be missing an edit button, but that should obviously be an early 2nd rounder, not a late 2nd rounder.
     
    #36 corby, Dec 18, 2009
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    The real crazy part is look at who was drafted from picks #26 (aaron Brooks) on.

    By my count after pick #25 there are only 6 players making any type of meaningful impact in the NBA and I think the Rockets have the best 2. Pretty remarkable that the Rockets got the two best players in the second half of the 2007 draft.

    #25 Aaron Brooks
    #27 Aaron Afflalo
    #31 Carl Landry
    #35 Glenn Davis
    #48 Marc Gasol
    #56 Ramon Sessions
     
    #37 pogs_are_for_pu, Dec 18, 2009
  18. waytookrzy079

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    the point of the thread is "draft 2007". SO in this would include all of the deals that took place DURING the draft of 2007...which i think would include SCOLA, who was a rookie, LANDRY who was acquired IN THE DRAFT.

    But anyways...who cares what the title is...the point is when "draft time" comes around, DM turns mediocre type picks into GREAT picks.

    I said this on a thread in '08 while Landry and Rockets were negotiating a contract extension that LANDRY can be a a Carlos Boozer type player if you compare both of their stats per 48 minutes. And that was only looking at Landry's rookie year. His stats this year are 16ppg, 6Rebs, 1Blk in 26 mins/game. If he begins to get about 35 mins, his production would be about 21.5ppg, 8rebs,1.3blks...in addition to his HIGH FG% and HIGH FT%.
     
    #38 waytookrzy079, Dec 18, 2009
  19. waytookrzy079

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    Marc Gasol would have been a pretty good pickup for us too given Yao's history and our lack of size.
     
    #39 waytookrzy079, Dec 18, 2009
  20. Chronz

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    My exact words from that draft:

    Im allready convinced Morey is an idiot and has tainted all statisiticians rep

    July 10, 2007


    I shouldve known better, Landry was no surprise but I really didnt want a pimpsqueak for a PG.
     
    #40 Chronz, Dec 18, 2009
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