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Houston-Dallas 205 mph bullet train starts in 2020, San Antonio to follow

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  1. da1

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    I doubt it. All around the world people can show up to a train a few minutes before and make it on time. That's the main advantage over air travel.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    I still think this is an excellent idea - great for evacuations from Katy during a hurricane too.

    DD
     
  3. Baqui99

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    How much will beers cost?
     
  4. da1

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    A UT Arlington civil engineering associate professor is studying the feasibility of placing a high-speed rail line within the public right of way from North Texas to Houston and San Antonio.



    The work is funded by the Texas Department of Transportation.



    Stephen Mattingly, an associate professor of civil engineering, is assessing the performance constraints to safe operation and design, which affect a high-speed train's average speed and overall system cost as part of his research. The routes would roughly follow Interstate 45 between Dallas and Houston, Interstate 35 between Dallas and San Antonio, and State Highway 6 from Waco to Houston.



    TxDOT recently faced a significant outcry against right-of-way acquisition when it began to plan for developing the Trans-Texas Corridor, Mattingly said. That negative experience, as well as the typical costs like environmental impacts and delays associated with construction on undeveloped land, led the agency to consider using its existing right-of-way resources to the greatest extent possible critical, he said.



    "The primary purpose of this research is to determine if and how existing TxDOT right of way can potentially accommodate high-speed intercity passenger rail and/or dedicated freight transportation systems," Mattingly said.



    Mattingly expects to deliver his findings this fall.



    North Texas leaders have had recent discussions with Texas Central High Speed Railway, a private, for-profit company interested in bringing high-speed rail to the state. Mattingly's work is not directly related to those discussions but could provide meaningful insight to rail planners.



    "We're conducting research to provide a range of information for TxDOT so that they have a starting point for negotiations with a possible system designer," Mattingly said. "We want to identify whether it's conceivable to even have high-speed rail in those corridors."



    The University of Texas at Austin, the University of North Texas and Texas Southern University also are participating in the TxDOT study with The University of Texas at Arlington. UT Arlington's share of the TxDOT grant is $125,868.

    http://phys.org/news/2013-06-ut-arlington-civil-professor-texas.html
     
  5. da1

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    It’s been just over a year since a Japanese-backed firm announced plans to build a 205 mph bullet train between Houston and North Texas, and elected officials and advocates are anxiously waiting for more details.

    That’s especially true in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, where the region’s decades-old turf war has been reignited by the prospects of where Texas Central High-Speed Railway plans to build its first North Texas station.

    That local officials are focusing so much attention on a proposal that is at least six years away from implementation shows how seriously they are taking this latest plan to make passenger rail work in highway-loving Texas. While logistical, financial and regulatory issues have stymied previous efforts, Texas Central High-Speed Railway has silenced naysayers largely through the pedigree of its lead investor, Central Japan Railway Company, which already runs profitable bullet train lines in Japan. The company has also increased interest by vowing to develop the multibillion-dollar project without public subsidies.

    “They have the investors behind them. They have the financing behind them. They have the technology. They can clearly build this,” said Tom Shelton, senior program manager for the North Central Texas Council of Governments. “The missing piece here is, what are they going to propose and is everybody going to be supportive of that?”

    Texas Central High-Speed Railway expects to release an environmental impact statement later this year that includes station locations and other details of its plan to transport passengers between the state’s two largest metropolitan regions in 90 minutes. The release of the report will be followed by a public comment period that could take two years.

    Robert Eckels, the company's president and a former Harris County judge, noted that the locations of both the Houston and North Texas stations have yet to be decided.

    “Houston is easy,” Eckels said. “There are various options within Houston, but there’s not the political volatility that you have between the Dallas and Fort Worth regions.”

    A regional transportation council made up of North Texas officials has endorsed a “three-station concept” for high-speed rail with a western station in downtown Fort Worth and an eastern one in downtown Dallas. The third station would be somewhere in between, either in the city of Arlington or at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport.

    Eckels said his firm wants to eventually serve both sides of the Metroplex. The immediate issue is where to build the first station.

    Reports that the firm was interested in a station in Southeast Dallas, where land is cheaper and the company might have more control over adjacent development, sparked a backlash in Tarrant County, where many officials have said a station near or at DFW Airport makes the most sense.

    “The easiest way to serve the Metroplex, 7 million people, is to bring it right up the middle,” said Tarrant County Commissioner Gary Fickes, who also chairs an advocacy group, the Texas High Speed Rail and Transportation Corp. A station at the airport would also easily connect travelers to other public transit options as well as several major highways, he said.

    Some Fort Worth-area officials have expressed concern that a Dallas station might never properly connect to the rest of the region and would represent a missed opportunity.

    “It has been the city of Fort Worth’s position that there needs to be a Fort Worth component, a way to make it viable for the people on this side of the Metroplex to use,” Fort Worth spokesman Bill Begley said.

    Dallas may have more clout in the final decision, as its city council appoints seven of the members on the airport’s 12-member board of directors.

    Dallas Councilwoman Linda Koop said the city supports the Regional Transportation Council’s “three-station concept,” but she declined to say if she or the city has a preference as to where the first station would be built.

    “We’re perfectly willing to wait to see what the private sector has to say,” Koop said.

    Eckels said his firm wants to hew to the three-station approach as closely as it can while still building a rail network that is profitable.

    “We are not a public entity,” Eckels said. “We have to integrate within the region’s plans, but fundamentally, we are a private project that has to have a return on investment.”

    It’s that private financing aspect of the venture that could determine how public officials respond once the company reveals its intentions later this year, Shelton said.

    “It is, at the moment, considered to be a 100 percent privately financed venture, so in some respects, we may be limited to what our authority is,” Shelton said.

    http://www.texastribune.org/2013/06/05/bullet-train-plan-sparks-turf-war-dallas-fort-wort/
     
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    Delete. lol thread necromancy.
     
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    http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/20...ston-in-90-minutes-may-soon-become-a-reality/
     
  8. Harrisment

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    We need this between Houston and Austin. Nobody wants to go to Dallas.
     
  9. MoonDogg

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    How about one between Katy and Lockhart?
     
  10. UtilityPlayer

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    FYI - DFW Metroplex has like 6.3-6.5 million people .....Just sayin'
     
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    DFW Metroplex is almost reaching 6.6 million.
     
  12. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost be kind. be brave.

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    That's great. It doesn't change the fact that it sucks and nobody living in Houston wants to go there.
     
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    Would certainly make evacuating much easier.
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    I really hope we get this going - would open up so much more business opportunities.

    DD
     
  17. mikus

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    This is slightly off-topic, but I only recently learned that the reason the city of Katy is called Katy is due to its origin as a train station for the old Missouri-Kansas-Texas rail line, called the "K-T" station, hence the town that grew up around the station was called Katy. Pretty interesting, huh?
     
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    That's why there's a big 'ol caboose downtown.
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    I rode the high speed train two weeks ago in the PRC between Wuhan and Changsa. It was pretty nice. Easy to get on and very smooth ride. More comfortable than flying.
     
  20. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I wish it was around. It could reshape Texas. You could live in Austin and work in Houston.
     

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