[Houston Chronicle] McGrady to sit out next two Rockets games

You've seen him for 46 minutes this entire season. How can you say he still dominates the ball. In the time that he's played, he's played within the team concept.

Although small sample size, its the only one worth mentioning:

In the Clippers game, Mac had 10 points and 3 assists. That's a pretty good sign that he is in the team concept.

Also, Kobe used to dominate the ball once Shaq left, but look at him now. He includes his team in all four quarters of play, but it is only when Kobe is needed, that he takes over.

Granted, Mac is no Kobe, but that doesn't mean Mac can't change his playstyle this late in his career.

 

None of them were dominate the ball type of players like

Marbury, AI, TMac.....heck maybe even Francis...

DD

 

8 mins= $200,000 is too expensive.

 

yup thats why i would want Sun Yue over Lebron..

 

Michael Jordan is a good example. Didn't think of him.

Jerry Stackhouse was a ballhog but for a few seasons, was pretty effective as a sixth man later in his career.

Gary Payton, though as an elite PG he always knew how to share the ball.

I know DD is talking about perimeter guys/ playmakers, but on the big men list, I'd also add Juwan Howard. He gets little respect on this board, but he's still a solid role guy.

 

HAHAHAHAHA Wow and you watch Basketball?? Jordan always had the ball in his hands majority of the time. Maybe Ewing and McDysse didn't but you can't be serious when you say they were not that type of players..

Steph and Iverson were playmakers so obviously they are going to dominate the ball. Steph is obviously going to dominate the ball because he was the POINT GUARD!!!!. You see Brooks dominating the ball at spurts but its funny how you don't say anything about that.. Francis was just a turnover machine but he made things happen once in a while.

If you think this get everyone involved thing is going to work then I would hate to see if you was a coach. You are going to need someone to dominate the ball and be a playmaker when the game is on the line.

 

REALLY??? did you REALLY just say that? bc we've had him on the squad and playing for how many years? and how many times has HE and HIS contributions taken us to the 2nd round???

ARE YOU SERIOUS????

 

He can't see the Forest through the trees...he fails to see the young stars that are developing right before his eyes in Brooks and Landry.

DD

 

Lou is saying we need a stronger perimeter threat. I agree with that, but McGrady is not it.

McGrady is done in Houston. I never expect to see him in a Rockets uniform again.

 

The whole idea was to name a star player on the team who turned into a role player. Juwan Howard was never really a star key go 2 guy. He just got seriously over paid and thats it.

DD so called doesn't think McGrady can become a role player. Even though McGrady shouldn't become a role player. Its not his time yet. I can understand if his game is obviously showing decline then yeah but as of now he hasn't played that much for anyone to know if his game is declining or not.

 

But even in his latter years he had the ball more often than not.....and once he went to Washington and tried to play off the ball as his skills declined, like the 3 or 4 I mentioned he struggled big time.

And did he ever become a role player, a guy who was no longer the lead dog?

That is what I am looking for....a guy with a ton of personal success who subjegated himself for the good of the team and became a successful role player.

Lots of good answer, but none of them were a dominate the ball type of player yet.

DD

 

This is correct.

But the "seeing the forest through the trees" part?

You mean...seeing the end of the forest through the trees? Because a forest is made up of trees...

 

yo you have four THOUSAND-something posts on this message board...and you're still a complete IDIOT for even typing that...HAHAHA!!!

Do you even watch the games???

 

Here's another question...did anybody believe that Tracy was going to be ok with playing 7-8 minutes a game for an extended amount of time? Even when he proved he could play more?

Another question...now be honest...how many good basketball players coming off an injury and now healthy would be ok with doing that? You're telling me other players wouldn't have the same issues he's having?

My point? The frustration Tracy has is normal...it should have been expected...and if Adelman and Morey really thought Tracy was just going to take it and be ok playing 7-8mins a game...then they're a little more dense that I thought...

That said, I still prefer if Tracy would just disappear. This is last years drama with another story and it's not gonna go away until he plays regular minutes (which doesn't seem like it's going to happen). So I'd like to say bye bye.

 

No it means you are looking at the tree or a couple of trees in front of you and fail to see the big picture which is the forest.

DD

 

The team is different now then what it was in the past. Guys do gain experience and knows what to do now compare to back then.

I guarantee you if Yao was healthy and McGrady was playing it would be a different story now compared to back then.

 

Ah, I think you're still on last year's version of McGrady.

Clippers game. McGrady's stats: 10 points, 3 assists. Although not a good sample size, that's the one game (out of the six or w/e) where he truly had numbers to show.

I wish you AND Adelman would give him a realistic chance before writing him off for good.

 

I don't know how to tell you this but McGrady gave up on the Rockets a while ago...the guy has no HEART...all the god given talent in the world...but no HEART...

"hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard" ripped that from someone's sig...

you remember the team that won 22 games in a row???

 

He has already dropped hints about how difficult it is going to be get playing time for Yao Ming, when he comes back. To me it looks like the first wave of fan conditioning for Tracy McG part two ( Yao Ming).
This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back (Les) :

 

1 game in 6?

And even in that game the ball stopped moving......but I did think he played pretty good on offense that game.

I just think the guys time has passed here in Houston, and he screwed over the organization last year, and just won't keep his mouth shut, and they have had enough.

So, whatever happens I am cool with........even if they decide to play him 20 minutes a game...whatever...I trust Morey and Adelman to do the right thing and make the mature decision.

Something I do not trust Tracy to do...

DD