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[Houston Chronicle] McGrady to sit out next two Rockets games

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rikesh316, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. 11Rox4Life3

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    Yeah, that's what I don't get. The organization has gone on record to say, "We want to only bring him back at a point where he wouldn't be in and out of the lineup." Well they brought him back, and six games in, Adelman/Rockets are taking him out of the lineup. The flip flopping, and decisions being made last minute are really frustrating. Honestly I don't care what's done, if McGrady's staying, cool, he can help the team IMO. If he's not, then get rid of him, and end the distraction. The way this is being handled is ridiculous.

    McGrady handled it the wrong way last season, now the Rockets are.
     
  2. Dave_78

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    Same here. I have a lot of faith in Morey to get back the most that is possible for McGrady. I think offers have been made and the organization is considering which one it wants to accept. I don't think it's a matter of if McGrady is leaving or even when (it will be soon). It's a matter of where at this point for the Rockets.

    There is no other reason to hold him out, then play him and then hold him out again unless he's done here forever. Good riddance. I'm ready to roll with what we have right now minus McGrady. If Morey brings in another player or two who fits the character and matches the work ethic of this team then that's all a bonus.
     
  3. smoothie

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    i agree 100%

    i thought that both sides have had it with each other before the season started. i thought that was the reason tmac wasn't playing... and of course i thought that playing him even for a showcase would stir up drama, which it seems to have done. needless to say i doubt that it would be a good idea to play him again.

    hopefully the showcase helped to serve the purpose of parting ways which i believe is best for both sides.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    The Rockets are only handling it wrong for the people that continue to root for T-Mac. The rest of the fans rooting for the Rockets as a team and organization don't really care what happens to T-Mac. Here is the way a real Rockets fan should look at it.

    - If RA (our coach) thinks he isn't able to contribute to the team yet then why play him more?
    - It's T-Mac's contract year? Really? And as Rox fans we care why?
    - Let's get someone else that may not produce as much but can actually produce consistently
    - Drama? What drama? The players are focused and winning. What else matters?

    The only drama here are the T-Mac fans would continue to make a drama out of it. I for one don't like the guy and want to get rid of him like an abusive spouse, but if he stays and does good consistently at a fair price, I am fine with that either.
     
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    Too short-sighted on your part. Adelman and Morey have green-lighted Ariza to swing for the fences. He either strikes out or he lights it up (too much of the former, though, to be sure). I doubt he'll be taking 5,123 shots per game when we trade for/bring in another player to be that first/second scoring option alongside Yao; but Ariza will likely slip to Option 3. The coaches and Morey want Ariza to reach his potential.

    Now, if Ariza's still shooting 1-for-9 and trying to club baby seals out on the floor in his frustration, then I'll return here with my hat in my hand and say, Uh, yeah, um; about what you said? Maybe you were right....
     
  6. t_mac1

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    this is why i don't think it's as simple as the rockets are "re-evaluating" tmac's progress.

    even if they don't trade him then, i hope morey would at least say to tmac so he would know what's going on and be quiet: "look, we're trying to trade you, so just sit tight." the thing is, i'm sure morey has not said that to his face and keep saying good things to him blah blah blah.
     
  7. RV6

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    it was just my two cents, sometimes when you're getting fired at from all directions you fire back in all directions without really looking.....its not the comments that are really the problem, but that your answers now mostly become "you're just a tbunny" or "your just making excuses for him" or in this case "you're just wrong". It's difficult to discuss anything like that, maybe some posters deserve it, but not all.

    You seem so sure that the team is going in a different direction, that they're locked in and on auto pilot from here on or something, but no one knows how much tmac will recover, not even the doctors or the team, if they did and it was not good they would not have wasted all this time. He would have been gone sometime during the summer. the best case scenario has always been tmac coming back to a solid level and resigning here because getting another big talent won't be easy and may not even happen. Is it likely to happen? You still can't be sure, Before it was a PR nightmare and no one knew what was going on at all and it was believed both sides hated each other and were at a standstill. Although not ideal, the situation overall has improved now, I dont believe they have an agenda to get him out at all costs, especially after the reception by fans. They still have to look at his rehab extensively before putting him on the clearance rack.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Read the Simmons article Leeb, hurting can mean the team or the owners...

    DD
     
  9. chenjy9

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    Ariza is taking so many shots a game because, well someone has to. When the opposing teams zone in on Brooks and Landry, we only have Ariza and Scola left to try to create, neither of which are any good at it. Would you rather see Hayes try to break an opponent of the dribble? I promise you it will be worse... much worse! :D
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Fair enough, we just disagree.

    I think the organization is done with him, and his prima donna act, and are only trying to showcase him before trading or negotiating a buyout.

    DD
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    t_mac1,

    You have to increase your posting rate. DD has out-posted you 42-24 so far in this thread.

    66 of 350 posts are from the two of you.
     
  12. RV6

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    why didnt they pull the trigger on a trade before if it's this bad? And where do u get tmac doesnt want to play, hes actually asking for more minutes...he may not be playing to the level some want, but how can you reach the conclusion that he doesnt want to play?
     
  13. 11Rox4Life3

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    Ugh, why does it have to be two sides. You can't honestly say "true" Rocket fans, which I am, don't care what happens with McGrady. SOMETHING has to happen with him, otherwise it's a distraction to this team. Do you not understand that. THERE'S more drama if T-Mac continues to stay on this team and not play.

    Like you said, he HAS to go, but why do we have to pretend like we're doing the best interest out of him. Why are we going to reevaluate him after 2 games? How much a difference is that going to make? The fact is, the Rockets activated McGrady, and have now deactivated him. That's just more confusion and adjusting of rotations once again, especially with Chase out.

    I don't care what happens with McGrady in the sense that if we play him with a role (not meaning 8 minutes), cool, if not, then trade HIM. But I CARE with what actually happens, in the sense of not being in the middle of two, with McGrady staying on this roster, not playing, and creating distractions.
     
  14. chenjy9

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    You kinda got to have a gun to pull a trigger. Teams aren't exactly offering us good players in trade proposals. :(
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Why does it have to be that Tmac is done?

    Why can't it be, that the team looked at him, saw that he still is not in game shape, and now wants to take a look at Taylor and Harris?

    Though, I personally want Tmac gone, on the next train out of town, they may be just following through on their plan.....play him, when he is ready.

    And right now, he isn't.

    DD
     
  16. 11Rox4Life3

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    What will two games change, honestly speaking? If it's true McGrady's not in "game shape," which is completely up to opinion, and Adelman believes that, then how will two games completely change that. Then come out and say, he's not able to contribute to this team.
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    Fixed.
     
  18. chenjy9

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    I am not saying there are only two sides. As a Rockets fan, you won't care about the T-Mac drama because it is not affecting anyone else but T-Mac and his fans. Our players are still playing team ball and as veterans and true professionals, are sure to look beyond this BS and simply do their jobs, play ball the way they are suppose to play.

    T-Mac will leave in some way or fashion, but the Rockets can't exactly come out and say that, otherwise all the other teams will lowball us going "why bother trying to get a fair trade when you don't want him anyways?" We also cannot get rid of him that easily. We have to have a trade or buyout lined up and Les is definitely not going to try to buy out T-Mac's $23 mil contract. T-Mac on the other hand will rather sit and collect money, but would prefer to get paid and play to showcase himself for his contract year.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    I don't buy into this. Physically, he looks more than capable of outplaying every wing on the team. Everything wrong with him can be attributed to rust or lack of effort. We know the only way to shake off the rust is to play him so my guess is they were not happy with his effort.

    He is out of chances with this team.
     
  20. 11Rox4Life3

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    Yes, I agree.
     

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