[Houston Chronicle] McGrady to sit out next two Rockets games

I wonder if this is about McGrady being vocal about his lack of minutes or if this is about Adelman and Morey analyzing what McGrady has done on the court and deciding the team's chances of winning are being diminished each night that McGrady makes his cameos?

Seriously, the team seems to lose intensity on defense and continuity on offense when he is on the court. Does anyone had the +/- in scoring for the Rockets vs. opponents while McGrady is on the court. It appears to me that the team has been severely outscored over the course of his 6 games while he is on the floor.

 

The fact that those guys stand around and watch has nothing really to do with McGrady. I mean, when you look at teams that have guys that have stuperstars or guys with superstar talent, the other guys on the team will find themselves watching. Those guys have to step up and play. It's not enough to play all out when you stars are not able to play. That is overcompensation. We don't need guys to overcompensate. We need guys to play up to their talent level whenever they are on the floor. Besides, name me one star level player or one superstar player that does not need the ball in their hand in order to be successful and do what they do best? There is not one, because that's what SUPERSTARS & SUPERSTAR TALENT LEVEL GUYS DO. The personality flaws in T-Mac have gotten old and I think we are all tired of those. But for those of you that keep griping on those flaws, those are personal issues. They have nothing to do with basketball. Keep the discussion on his abilities as a basketball player and leave the personal biases out of the conversation.

 

A) His leg muscles were weak from not rehabbing correctly in the offseason (a well documented fact)
B) Does the term "low pain tolerance" mean anything to you? Doctors told him eventually the pain will go away as he heals naturally
C) He could have been, while unlikely even for him, faking it

 

+12
-10
0
+1
+3
-8

He has been -2.

 

Ok, the doctors did say the pain was going to go away. But, he took 2 weeks off, LOOKED really good, and the pain started coming again.

 

tracy being vocal is nothing new. and it contradicts what the team has been sayin in regards to how they will handle tmac when he will return. either a trade is coming, or they should just sit him out completely. this is pretty stupid b/c if tracy wants more than just say 12-13 minutes, they're going to sit him out again to re-evaluate?

here are his +/- for every game:
detroit +12
denver -10
dallas +0
oklahoma +1
clippers +3
orlando -8

so in only 2 games tracy had a negative +/- out of 6. so no, another myth that he hurts the team when he's in for just 8 minutes a freakin' game. but you can carry on that myth though, it'll fly in this board with ease.

 

This is great news, I hope within these next two games Tracy is traded. Management and Coach have had enough of Tmac's drama formulated through the media.

I also noticed how some of my friends were all on my case after he made a couple of shots in the Clippers game. If people can get that excited from Tmac's play, it just goes to show how much we have lowered our standards for the $23 million man. For ever decent/good game Tmac has, he will have atleast 2 or 3 bad games (still better than Ariza I know). Anyways, my main quarrel with Mac is that he doesn't care about anything but that contract extension (his concerted effort which I've never seen besides in the playoffs or on nationally televised games shows he is playing for that contract).

In concluding, I think, Tmac has this notion that he is still the player he once was or may become from 4-5 years ago, even though evidence shows he has regressed every year he has been in Houston. On top of all that, he is on the wrong side of 30 coming off of microfracture surgery.

Goodbye T-mac. I certainly will not miss you.

 

Thanks for the numbers. My guess had the team -10 or worse.

 

"I believe his thoughts on this are that he doesn’t want to have to go through what he did last year with a knee that began swelling, and requires injections and removal of fluids from the joint in order to play. He wants to try to do something that has the chance of getting the knee back to as close as normal as he can. That’s what the microfracture procedure offers.

“I’ve told Tracy that I will take the blame,” Clanton said. “I think that I let him return to play a little too quickly. That was obviously his decision as well. Perhaps if we had strengthened his knee more at the start, maybe he wouldn’t have had these symptoms.”

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29246692/

 

How does taking 2 weeks off equate to proper rehab? He needed to strengthen his leg muscles. Any time you take 2 weeks off you will feel better. T-Mac has always had low pain tolerance. That is why he took cortisone shots instead of playing through the pain. Kobe played with a torn up pinky through a good deal of his season, where all the doctors agreed he needed a surgery. T-Mac had to look for a docctor that recommened surgery as the first option. There is a limit to being obsessed...

 

The interesting thing is.

1) Adelman said he is gonna work McGrady back in the lineup by playing him for 8 minutes through 1st four games.

2) Than he said he is gonna do that through christmas

3) Than before Orlando-Clippers back to back he said he is not gonna change anything through that back to back but then they will change it.

4) After that he said nothing has changed

5) Than McGrady is not playing at all.

Please somebody tell me what is the organization doing? What is their plan.

 

Ok?

The doctors said the pain was going to go away but he had to keep on playing on it.

He kept on playing on it, and it continued to get worse.

 

you're not the only one. everyone who wants tracy to do bad will have the assumption that he hurts the team when he's on the floor, so it doesn't matter what his +/- are (though i really don't put that much stock into those numbers--carl landry had a big - in the orlando game despite playing very well).

the fact that 4 of the 6 games tracy didn't hurt the team when he was on the floor if you really take that stat to heart.

again, i just hope this saga is resolved soon. trade him, or sit him. don't even try to play him again b/c nobody in this situation knows how to handle this. everybody is looking like a damn fool contradicting one another.

 

No, smarty pants, and neither have most of the posters here. Most of us aren't at your level.

I am THE expert on my own opinion; that's what qualifies me to give it. I do see a lot of posters that were in love with Gerald Green, who is struggling just to stay in the league. Same for Von Wafer; maybe I don't know crap, but the rest of the NBA didn't fall all over themselves trying to sign these guys.

The Houston Oilers used to have a quarterback, Bucky Something-or-other. Very popular guy. Once they finally turned him loose, nobody else signed him.

I know, I could just wait until I know as much as you before posting again, but my standards are frankly not that high.

 

Thanks DD!

I really don't think it that hard to move him. Now, the rockets aren't going to get a great deal, but a break even deal would do. One of those teams might be angling for lowry or someone like that. I can't see a team like nj wanting him considering they have harris,rafer,and dooling, but they might want to rid themselves of doolings extra yr. Dooling and najera each make 3.5m and have a yr after this. We all know the nets want the extra space and the rox want to get under the lt. Simmons,Boone,Dooling,and najera for tracy and kyle makes sense, but it wouldn't appease those who think we should get more and not give up kyle.If the kings struggle when martin comes back, he might be a option. I would be cautious in dealing with the kings. They have a lot of good young players and if u give them cap room by taking a couple of their long term contracts, they can come back and hurt u next yr and for yrs to come.

T-mac1, I disagree on your thoughts about brooks. To be a closer, the player needs to be a triple threat. He needs to be able to shoot,pass,and create off the dribble. Brooks may not be great, but he does enough of them to be effective. He needs seasoning more than anthing to be better.

 

When the playoffs roll around...............

we are going to need a player that can set up the halfcourt game and make us efficient in halfcourt sets.

I am not saying we have to have Tracy. I am saying, if we don't get that type of player, we have no chance to win anything.

Our fastbreak style is great, but when the playoffs start up, the top notch playoff teams slow the ball down and work the halfcourt game. And you cannot ALWAYS force tempo higher without forcing bad shots and turnovers when you are playing against top echelon defensive units in the playoffs.

If we trade Tracy, we need to get back a halfcourt playmaker, a guy that can hit shots from everywhere and can create effectively for others by drawing doubles and penetrating, dishing, etc. We have no one on this team that can do that effectively.

Tracy either needs to be integrated effectively into this team or he needs to be traded for a big man and a playmaker type player that can get his shot off anytime and create for others.

Should we welcome Gilbert Arenas and Brendan Haywood to town?

 

I hope they start playing him again, even for 7-8 minutes. If they don't play him after those 2 games
he's guaranteed to be out for, go ahead and trade him. You're just wasting his talent and time. Appreaciate
him, he's trying extremely hard to get back from the surgery and he's doing good so far. You should
be glad he's so cooperative even when you treat him like that. Tmac must be used right, it doesn't
matter if it's by our team or another team. He can be very valuable when used right. And it seems
like what RA has with t-mac is personal. It doesn't seem to be what's best for the team at all. Just play
him or trade him, that's all I got to say.

 

That's the problem right there. TMac wants to be treated like a super star, (dominate the ball, let teammates do the dirty work in the defense end...), but he's not a super star any more. Can you seriously see any team would build around TMac?

 

His mind and heart are, and always will be, weak.

When I think of the current Rockets roster and the word "champion" the names that pop up are Landry, Lowry, Hayes, Yao. Certainly not McGrady.

He has had multiple chances to prove me wrong and instead all he does is talk about it and expect things to be handed to him because he is a "star".

 

now i think you misunderstood. i simply said brooks won't be a "star" (meaning all-star) in this league. i never said he won't be a great contributor to our team; i've always said that.

i think he can be a pretty decent closer depending on the matchups and i think he'll be a very good starting PG in this league in his prime.

again, i love AB. if it was up to me, i would trade anyone but AB and carl landry b/c they fit what adelman does to a T offensively.