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House Republicans Move To Increase H1B Visa Quota

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. bucket

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    So this isn't supposed to be seen as a statement about "liberals", merely an unrelated statement about socialism, even though it was written as a response to BT's post about liberals and began with "yeah..."? I'm really not following you.
     
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    if his main point was to talk about my use of the word liberal (shown by his "liberal" tag) he should have gone with quoting the other guy since I never said liberal.
     
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    There is also no limit for universities to hire H1s.
     
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    Which is why this is an ongoing stop gap to a tremendously glaring problem in our education system.

    We're not churning enough math and science degrees, and our schools suck. The H1B Visa Quota is a ridiculous measure that turns away educated immigrants after they come to our universities to earn degrees. Other countries would dream to have that workforce, and their competitive incentives are growing more and more successful.

    Without homegrown talent and a decline in immigrant applications, our universities are at risk of not being able to maintain their standings as world-class research institutions. It will be a disastrous decline if we don't address this problem.

    Unfortunately, it took a billionaire in Bill Gates to carefully explain this problem to both parties in order for them to increase the quota.
     
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    Actually the base H1B program is being abused by the sweat shops mentioned in the article I posted. There is no requirement to have a US degree for the base H1B. In fact, many sweat shops fabricated "degree" for their slaves.
     
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    I am also for unlimited H1Bs as long as they can't apply for green card on an employment-based basis.

    That way we can milk their money to save our social security system. :cool:
     
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    If you eliminate quotas and fine tune the language to allow any graduate from a credible college a visa, there wouldn't be as strong of a system that exploits immigrants with the threats of deportation.
     
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    :confused:

    You don't feel like you can compete with foreignors?

    You know what I say? BRING IT ON
     
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    You dont want to. One tech company in texas, which shall remain nameless, had to enact a rule forcing ALL engineers to leave work before 10PM. An increasingly large number of H1Bs were voluntarily logging 16-18 hrs per day, all at rock bottom wages.
     
  10. bucket

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    The problem was with the erroneous connection between today's liberals in general and socialism, a connection that you (and only you) made.
     
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    yeah no liberals support socialism.
     
  12. bucket

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    Some do, most don't. I don't care. I just popped in to point out that your complaint about the response to your post was unfounded. A simple misunderstanding, now corrected.
     
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    Drop in the bucket.
     
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    That's right, you want to pick and choose planks from the Communist Manifesto.

     
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    Of the eight "planks" that you bolded, I count four that few if any current "liberals" in the usual sense support, three more that most everyone in America supports to the same extent as liberals, and only one (a progressive income tax) that is controversial at all.
     
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    You don't know the H-1B too well do you? The H-1B didn't expand. It shrunk. The ceiling shrunk from roughly 120,000 in 2002 and 2003. IF the amendment gets approved, it merely resets it back to pre-2006 levels.

    It also DIDN'T get raised from 65,000 to 85,000. There is a limit of 65,000 for undergraduates and an additional 20,000 for graduate students.

    That could (and often would) be the case with or without H-1B. You get three years + three years extension. If your company doesn't apply for immigration status on your behalf in that time (and many don't), you'll have to pack your bags and leave any ways.

    No offense or anything, that simply isn't true. And I'm speaking from experience. IT is also about way more than code-monkeying. Those you can find anywhere.
     
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    It was 65,000 before dot-com era. During the dot-com era, it was raised to 195,000 under heavy lobbying. It was reduced back to 65,000 after the dot-com bubble. When the situation gets a bit better, 20,000 more for grad students with US degrees is added in 2004 :cool:
     

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