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House passes war appropriations bill - Chimpy throws a hissy fit

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Mar 23, 2007.

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  1. DonkeyMagic

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    long story short..leave it to the generals.
     
    #381 DonkeyMagic, Apr 25, 2007
  2. mc mark

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    While that is true.

    The hypocrisy comes when Bush says he listens to the generals but removes the ones that don't tell him what he wants to hear and puts in place those who do.
     
    #382 mc mark, Apr 25, 2007
  3. Sishir Chang

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    Not always. If we had left it to the generals Korea would've turned into WWIII and the Cuban Missile Crisis a nuclear war.

    I agree with the idea of overally civillian control but quite a bit of deference should be given to the generals. Still there are some decisions that are better left to civilian leadership.
     
    #383 Sishir Chang, Apr 25, 2007
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    Personally, I don't see asking for a timeline as "micromanagement."

    My boss asks me for timelines every day, but I don't believe she micromanages me unless she starts telling me HOW to meet the timeline.

    If Bush won't give us a timeline, it is up to the Congress to tell the President, Pentagon, and everyone else involved exactly how long they will continue to fund this debacle.
     
    #384 GladiatoRowdy, Apr 25, 2007
  5. Sishir Chang

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    I agree its hypocritical in terms of rhetoric but he does have the Constitutional right to do that.
     
    #385 Sishir Chang, Apr 25, 2007
  6. Sishir Chang

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    Its not exactly analogous as in the case of Congress setting deadlines would be where another department in your company is telling you to set a timeline and not your direct boss.
     
    #386 Sishir Chang, Apr 25, 2007
  7. glynch

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    Our country is sort of based on the King not being able to fight wars when and if he wants to.
     
    #387 glynch, Apr 25, 2007
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    i there are sufficient enough differences between a timeline with your boss over a project and a timeline over a military operations ...just a guess though
     
    #388 DonkeyMagic, Apr 25, 2007
  9. El_Conquistador

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    HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
     
    #389 El_Conquistador, Apr 25, 2007
  10. Sishir Chang

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    ^ You think its funny that women are in management?
     
    #390 Sishir Chang, Apr 25, 2007
  11. mc mark

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    Not only is TJ a racist he's also a misogynist.

    Didn't you know?
     
    #391 mc mark, Apr 25, 2007
  12. El_Conquistador

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    No, I actively support women in management positions, particularly if they are hot. I just think it's funny that andymoon answers to a woman, given the bravado that he puts forth around here...
     
    #392 El_Conquistador, Apr 25, 2007
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    I always suspected you were a misogynist. Thank you for confirming.
     
    #393 GladiatoRowdy, Apr 25, 2007
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    You do realize how sexist this statement is, right?

    What exactly does the sex of my supervisor have to do with my supposed "bravado?"

    Oh, that's right, nothing at all. Just another idiotic statement. Par for the course.
     
    #394 GladiatoRowdy, Apr 25, 2007
  15. Sishir Chang

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    I see a sexual harrassment suit coming.

    I take it you haven't been married or in a serious relationship.
     
    #395 Sishir Chang, Apr 25, 2007
  16. mc mark

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    Barack Obama's statement on the Senate passing the Iraq funding bill today.
     
    #396 mc mark, Apr 26, 2007
  17. mc mark

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    Chimpy throws another fit!

    Bush to Democrats: do not 'test my will' on Iraq

    President George W. Bush warned Democrats Friday not to "test my will" by passing new legislation on a US troop pullout from Iraq after he vetoes a bill passed by Congress this week.

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    "And if the Congress wants to test my will as to whether or not I'll accept the timetable for withdrawal, I won't accept one," he told a news conference at his retreat in Camp David, Maryland, alongside Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

    "So if they want to try again that which I have said was unacceptable, then of course I'll veto it," Bush said.

    http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Bush_to_Democrats_do_not_test_my_wi_04272007.html

    I really don't understand why Jr. is being such a big baby over this bill. All he has to do is sign the bill and then issue his #864th signing statement. It's not that difficult.
     
    #397 mc mark, Apr 27, 2007
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    Because he's leadering. He don't want to be known as a cut and runner
     
    #398 updawg, Apr 27, 2007
  19. DonkeyMagic

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    Remove a specific date in the bill and it will be passed. By the time the next president is elected the situation will be re-evaluated and go from there. it doesnt get much more simple than that.
     
    #399 DonkeyMagic, Apr 27, 2007
  20. mc mark

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    I believe they have removed it and the language has been re-written as "goals" instead of date certain.

    I don't know how much more they can compromise without the president making some concessions himself.

    But you're right. It's going to take the next president to clean up Jr's mess.

    Same as it ever was.
     
    #400 mc mark, Apr 27, 2007
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