Hosts of 'The View' walk out during Bill O'Reilly interview

Yes the only extreme government that are religious base are only Muslim. I believe that it was moderate Christian that gave equal right to all the people because I believe they are the one that was in power.

Since the US living standard is always higher than the rest of the world we can't really use this country as an example but lets said the countries in Asian and let be more specific and use Thailand. I have't not heard of any extremist Buddhist go around kill non buddhist but i heard of plenty of extremist Muslim killing people and even killed teachers right in front of their students and demand that southern part of Thailand be join with Malaysian, which Islam is a state religion. I know there are bad people in every race and religion but if there are more of it in one sector of the population maybe the problem is not the people.

 

So they gave people equal rights. That would include the right to build a perfectly legal mosque then right?

 

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Agree. She's weak and might be the most hopelessly outmatched member of a show in recent memory. Havent heard any grumblings from her, though.

I don't think the show is that bad in my limited viewings of it, but it sure has its bad moments

 

This is because that part of Thailand was annexed to the Thais, and the population have always spoken Malaysian.

To illustrate, imagine Mexico takes all of Texas and then decides to run Texas like Mexico - Mexican schools, subsidies for Mexican businesses, Spanish language, etc.

How would the people of Texas, who don't even speak Spanish, react?

There's no excuse for violence obviously. However, if you want to make a case for non-violence, try not putting forth such porous arguments.

This is the first result from a google search for Buddhist terrorism:

I don't know how much of that is true, but if I were to take things at face value like you do, I would believe that Buddhism is an ideology dominated by war and genocide.

The only thing you said which was useful was that - MAYBE it's not the people that's the problem. You're absolutely right, it's not the people. But you act like the only other possibility is that the religion is the problem. It could be a number of things like socio-economic problems, but more importantly it could be just a sect of the religion which happens to be mega-rich and mega-powerful that influences the rest.

The core issue is oil. The rednecks of the Muslim population own most of the oil on earth, and the big economies are drunk on oil. As with every drunk person, they continue to fork over the dough for another drink and do not care what's going on.

Unfortunately, at this point in time, it seems the drunkards have decided that it's more feasible to have wars on terrorism than to stop giving money to the propogators of terrorist ideology. Bin Laden rejoices because the big economies are easy to hate given they are always at war (enemy), the oil-countries are oppressing their people and infusing them with male-dominant, racist-filled 'Islamic' ideology (army), and the divisions between 'Islamic' groups means there's always someone willing to give him money (funding). He has all the pieces to become an artificial hero.

To put this in simple terms. There's a bully, there's a whole bunch of nerds, and a few of them are LOADED with cash. Bin Laden is the guy watching all along, who decides to grab the funding, fight the bully, and surround himself with all the other nerds who fear being beaten up soon. The only thing he needs is a way to convince them to give HIM the money - so he creates a twisted parallel-universe form of Islam in which the bully is named and shamed, providing funding takes you to heaven, and the nerds get 72 virgins.

To sum up, you can't say Muslims attacked America on 9/11 because such a statement assumes that everyone is in agreement about the definition of 'Muslim'. You can say they were all Arab, and that's factual.

But you can not be a sneaky ***** and insinuate that the people who flew the plane into the trade center share the exact same set of beliefs as all other people who call themselves 'Muslim'. The word 'Muslim' is self-certified - meaning only YOU can call yourself Muslim, and no one else can make that determination for you. This is why calling someone an 'infidel' is a humongous sin in Islam and also why no one can be punished as an 'infidel' unless they themselves declare their infidelity (if there is such a word).

Hope that helps.

 

the view, man... the view. good god the view.

 

If Muslims are no big threat, then why is the Washington Post so afraid of them?

 

I love Jesse Ventura's response. I absolutely love it. The constitution exists to protect unpopular speech, popular speech does not need protecting.

Left, right or center if you love this country you love that piece of paper and what it stands for. People have forgotten that.

 

It's pretty stupid to be a racist too, but that doesn't stop the tea party or people like "bill"

 

Assuming you're talking about our founding fathers, they gave all white men equal rights. And ironically, it's usually the people who are considered "liberals" who actually gave equal rights to all people.

Mathloom pretty much said it more than I would have.

 

You and Mathloom need to study up on Thai's history. Thailand used to be call SIAM and Thailand is never under western Rule. Nobody Annexed the southern part of Thailand to Thai's people its always belong to people of Thailand. Its was Thailand that gave away land to other not the other way around, in fact part of Malaysia used to belong to Thailand.

It doesn't matter who is liberal or conservation, its the Christian that gave equal right to all the races and stop supporting party like KKK.

But Mathloom post does shed some light on the subject, i really like the analogy about nerds and bullies. My main problem with Islam seem to be that you guys are too strict about not socialize with non Islam for some reasons.

 

Moderate Muslims including Iman Rauf have been speaking out against extremism. Honestly this continual claim that moderate Muslims aren't speaking out is based on ignorance. You don't need to even search that hard to find moderate Muslims speaking out against extremists as even here on Clutchfans there are Muslims speaking out against the extremists.

Not quite. You are correct that Thailand wasn't under Western Rule but the territory of the Malay states, that became Malaysia, wasn't under Thai rule, parts of it were at times, and vice versa parts of what is now Thailand was under outside rule, but for most of its history those lands were either ruled by their own Rajah's, the Portugese and the English. Much of the people in Southern Thailand are ethnic Malays who have always been Muslim and going back to Malaysian independence there has been border trouble off and on. During the early years of Malay independence Communist rebels launched attacks on Malaysia across the border from Thailand.

Also just to add the Malay government doesn't support the violent groups in Southern Thailand.

Anyway the problems in southern Thailand have more to do with ethnicity and economics than religion. Malaysia is officially Muslim but is very tolerant of other religions and practices a moderate form of Islam.

Having just been in an Islamic country recently and spending time in other Islamic countries and knowing many Muslims I can tell you that many Muslims have no problem socializing with non-Muslims.

Also just to follow on Mathloom's post about Buddhists. I believe in the tenets of Buddhism but he is right that doesn't mean that Buddhists are immune to radical violent extremists. IN the 1990's a radical Buddhist group called Aum Shinrikyu launched nerve gas attacks in the Tokyo subways and were actively seeking an atomic bomb.

 

I have never seen a whole episode of The View but from what little I have seen you might be right. Frankly if I was on The View I would walk out too.

 

In a follow up Fox News Channel Host Brian Kilmeade apologizes to Muslims over comments made during a discussion of O'Reilly on the View.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39728346


Fox host apologizes for comment on Muslims
Brian Kilmeade said, 'not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim'

NEW YORK — Fox News Channel host Brian Kilmeade is apologizing for saying on the air that "all terrorists are Muslim."

Kilmeade, a host of the "Fox & Friends" morning show, said Monday that he misspoke Friday when he and his colleagues were discussing an appearance of Fox's Bill O'Reilly on "The View" last week. O'Reilly said "Muslims killed us on 9/11" and "View" hosts Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg walked off the set in objection. They returned after O'Reilly apologized and after being chastised by colleague Barbara Walters for leaving.

Kilmeade said "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim."

On Monday, Kilmeade said on Fox that "I don't believe all terrorists are Muslims. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that if I offended ... or hurt anybody's feelings. But that's it."

 

Wow, finally some oversimplification and slander. Surprised it took this long.

 

fify.

 

was what he said racist or a fact? You must be confusing the two