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Hosts of 'The View' walk out during Bill O'Reilly interview

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by s land balla, Oct 15, 2010.

  1. SunsRocketsfan

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    thanks for the video.. O'Reilly seemed to be on spot on all his statements..
    The View ladies sure look really stupid.. especially whoopi and beywhore..

    As for the the 9/11 Muslim issue.. They have a right to build it there but really is it the most sensible thing to do? I don't think so.
     
  2. The Real Shady

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    I'm not a fan of Elisabeth Hasselbeck, but she is constantly teamed up on every day on this show and is able to take it. When she finally gets someone on her side the other chicks can't handle it and take off. Pretty weak imo.

    Show sucks btw. :)
     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    In 1956 the Supreme court said that school could not be segregated in a little town in Arkansas. The black students had the right to go there, but was it the most sensible thing to do?
     
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    Yes, probably because the white school was better than the one they were going to. How does the Muslim center location actually affect the quality of the Muslim center itself or the activities that will go on there?
     
  5. Steve_Francis_rules

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    It affects the accessibility for the Muslims passing through the immediate vicinity, the people it was intended for.
     
  6. SunsRocketsfan

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    Wow what a horrible analogy like the poster above pointed out.
    Japanese citizens also have a right to build a Japanese/Shrine/Temple whatever you want to call it on the site of Pearl Harbor. Is that the most sensible thing to do? Do you not think it might offend some people?

    I mean why does this Mosque have to be built so close to the site of 9/11? There is plenty of land and if its going to cause so many objections and cause the families who lost love ones grief and pain why not have a bit of compassion and discuss to build it somewhere else. If I were the Muslim leaders planning this Mosque and I wanted to improve my relations and peoples views of my religion I would have a bit of common sense and compassion and understand that even though they have right to build it there it might not be the best thing to do. It's a sensitive issue for a lot of people and why divide the country even more and cause it to be a huge political issue. Maybe its their intention.. I don't know but again just because you have the right to do something it doesn't mean you should.
     
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  7. Dubious

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    Kill this thread, the auto-play FOX is now playing two versions.

    Plus you dumbasses that say Muslims killed Americans on 9/11 and the Mosque is too close to Ground Zero are just getting tiresomly stupid like Bill O'rielly.

    That's just the most ridiculous bull**** extrapolation I ever heard.

    Maybe its the double echo thats driving me over the edge or I'm just full up with stupid.
     
  8. SunsRocketsfan

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    well at least they have one attractive person on that show :p
     
  9. SunsRocketsfan

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    this :grin:
     
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    Is The View done live?

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  11. Cohete Rojo

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    Walked right off the set and into the kitchen, hopefully.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    My analogy may not have been great but yours was worse.

    The difference is that the nation of Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. The religion of Islam did not attack on 9/11.

    Also let's clear up some facts. They aren't building a mosque.

    If I was a Muslim leader planning this community center, I would want to put it as close to ground Zero as possible. I would want to do that because I know that the attack killed numerous Muslims. I also know that Muslims constitute the largest number of victims from extremist Muslim terrorists. I also know that Al-Qaeda and the Wahhabi sect they adhere to would hate a community center like the one being built, and would relish rubbing their faces in that community center being built on what they probably thing was some kind of grand victory for them. This would show them beyond a doubt that there was no victory in their cowardly attack.

    I wouldn't worry about any controversy because I would know I would be taking a stand against terrorism and the very organization that plotted 9/11 by building the community center there.
     
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    It affects the quality of the center itself because this center is a slap in the face to everything the terrorists who attacked on 9/11 believe in. People always want Muslim leaders to step out and take action against the extremists. What better way to do it than by building something Al-Qaeda and their Wahhabi sect would abhor on the very spot they had done the most damage back in 2001.
     
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    This is issue is getting old and circular. The opponents of the cultural center keep rehashing old arguments which have been repeatedly discussed, and it's evident that they're entrenched in their opposition for whatever underlying reasons.

    How far is appropriate, even though there has been another mosque in the area for decades? Or should it be even closer like your reasoning suggests? Private property rights? Was the religion itself to blame? Is there such a thing as hallowed ground in commercialized Manhattan (strip clubs)? Will opponents finance the huge sums needed for buying, demolishing, constructing other 'appropriate' real estate that's also convenient for Muslims?

    I think it's a mix of xenophobia, Islamophobia, for Evangelicals it's a fear of the changing face of America from a homogeneous Anglo-Saxon/Judeo-Christian society to something new while for the secularists it's fear of theocracy, and finally internal frustrations and anxieties at the decline of American economic and military power, a bleak future for their grandchildren and a shrinking middle class, all of these blend together and are spewed forth by a corporate-controlled mass media onto a population that is increasingly ignorant, insular uneducated, and poor. The result is the Tea Party and its sympathizers for its opposition to the cultural center.

    Like Muslim extremists around the world who use Palestine as a rallying point for their own complaints and agenda, this new faction uses the 'mosque' in a similar manner.

    A co-worker vehemently denies my allegations. "That's all just ridiculous.. I'm only looking out for the families of the 9/11 victims."

    Really? Did you say anything about the GOP opposition to health care for 9/11 aid workers? How often has decency and courtesy come up in examples of upholding constitutional rights? What about the Muslims killed on 9/11?

    As Tocqueville and John Stuart Mill said, there should be no tyranny of the majority.
     
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  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Not to mention the Muslim families of the Muslim victims of 9/11 might find the idea that the extremists who killed their family members can't prevent something like this from happening comforting to them.
     
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    This part is dumb. Anyone who watches O'Reilly knows that he virtually always makes this distinction.
     
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    Yea, it's a sensitive issue.

    Sensitive issue for ignorant people who blame an entire religion for the act of several extremists.

    That's hilarious. Remember that Draw Muhammad day? :rolleyes:
     
  18. Steve_Francis_rules

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    Oh really? Japanese citizens have the right to build a Japanese Shrine/Temple on a US Navy installation in Hawaii?
     
  19. Codman

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    O'Reilly is a poor excuse for a human being, and he's one of the biggest hypocrites in the media.

    His "claims" on the show were in poor taste, but expected, when you consider the propaganda that spews from his mouth during "Talking Points."

    Whoopi and whats-her-face shouldn't have walked out, but I understand why. It's difficult to remain civil and have a discussion when someone continues to say things that are either inaccurately overgeneralized or flat out offensive.

    He's a twit.

    Karma exists and he'll get his one day. I give him props for continuing to mislead his viewers, along with Glenn Beck, even though a great deal of political analysts, republican and democrat, ether their sorry butts on a daily basis.
     
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