i think weight issues and health complications that arise from them are no longer just an american-only case. its everywhere in the world that's not at war/or suffering from a famine. i cant remember where i heard this, but being skinny nowadays cost more than being fat. only the rich are able to keep fit cos theyre able to pay more for better quality food, gym memberships, they have jobs that allow them free time to work out, they live in open areas where there are activities to be done, whereas a poorer person wouldnt be able to make time to keep fit, eat right, etc. personally, when i was in university, i was working out almost everyday for free at the university gym and had a six pack like the thadeus. 2 years after ive gained maybe about 15kgs. and i do feel depressed at how i look compared to then.
No it doesn't. The radiologist should buy a better scanner. Or the R&D departments need to create a better one.
They spend money all the time on drugs/treatments etc for things that only benefit a few people. What do you want...Punishment for people who are fatter than you deem acceptable. Presumably the penalty you want is death because you are talking about unfound tumors. Hey, whatever gets you through the night. If your trim waistline is an "accomplishment" and people who don't share it are weak and defective...keep believing it. Me I think all people deserve medical care. If a scanner misses my tumor because I have a fat belly so be it...but SHOULD we do better...even if it costs...certainly.
You think I like being insensitive? I ****ing hate it. I hate myself. I hate myself every time I say a ****ing word. I think "wow I'm a ****ing insensitive ass" Do you know what that is like? **** you and your self-righteous sensitive bull****. (not sure whether i should post a with that...or would that offend somebody?)
If we had a limitless budget I'd easily agree with you. You think I WANT people to die? But I'd rather stretch that budget and help the masses.
I don't want EVERY MRI in a city to be open enough for someone double average size. Or EVERY scanner to be better made to scan through fat. But surely there should be something in driving range I can get to, to try to maximize my sad fat little life?
I agree. It is a bit ridiculous if there's nothing within driving range that can fit somebody. Everybody should have the right to be treated for their medical condition if they can afford it. But is this the hospitals job or should it fall under private health care? I'm not sure...
It makes sense, but I'd imagine that medical complications from obesity become exponentially more expensive later on than the initial investment of fighting it.
Wow, you being a big guy doesn't disgust me, but your sense of entitlement sure does. Hey, Ben Taub Hospital, I know you have lots of $$$ lying around treating the uninsured, so how about plunking down $1 million for that MRI machine that works on fat people? Realistically speaking, you're going to get your wish because such a large number of people are obese that industries are forced to adjust, such as hospitals and the like. There's no going back. Losing weight is hard, it's damn hard, anyone that has ever tried should be able to attest to that. But no matter which way you slice it (no pun intended) obesity, except in very rare cases, is a self-inflicted problem, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't feel the need to try to tweak the healthcare system to accomodate you instead of the 5 year old with leukemia.
This is 100% correct. That's why some healthcare insurance have discounts if you have a gym membership or don't smoke. Prevention is a big time $ saver.
I am not sure it is an either/or thing. Where do you draw the line. When is an illness not "self inflicted". Do people have to follow a diet and excersise regimen to be treated or just not be obese. Cause I guarantee you it is easier if you are naturally predisposed to be slim. I have mentioned it before but I have a brother...same mother, same father...who eats what I do and weighs 130. Is it a sense of entitlement that compels me to want something in a 300 mile radius that might accomadate my extra pounds. Your hating fat people doesn't disgust me..your playing judge jury and executioner does. Edit: I have been in Ben Taub. Lots of people shot (don't live a gang lifestyle) etc...The fact is except for the 5 year old with leukemia you mentioned..most health problems have some element of personal responsibility. Yet, no one has spent a penny on my medical care yet..so I imagine I have paid in more than I have gained...even though I am a fat-fat-fattie.
Whoa. I don't hate fat people. I don't hate anyone. Slow down. I'm bothered quite a bit by people who have a sense of entitlement which you certainly seem to. How am I playing judge, jury, and executioner??? Where did I say obese people don't deserve to be treated? If you weigh 700 lbs are you any less deserving of medical care than a 150 lb person? Of course not. What I'm saying is, take some personal responsibility for your own problems instead of foisting them on others and asking society to spend more $$$ to accomodate you. By the way, self-inflicted illness is incredibly easy to diagnose. If you smoke and get its related consequences you did it to yourself. I could go on and on...now, do are people who develop illnesses that are primarily self-inflicted deserving of sympathy? It depends on who you ask, but I would say absolutely they do. Do I think it's reasonable to have a scanner available to you in your area? Of course I do. But your response "well, they should just buy a bigger table," is ridiculous.
stop fanning the flames of hate towards the over weight in this thread.. they have enough problems as it is..
I realize some people are luckier then others when it comes to obesity; genes and all that. Just as a particular example, I have seen very few fat Asians. BUT, (and this is based on personal experience and opinions) I refuse to believe that the majority of people are working their hardest to manage their obesity.
Alright, I lost my cool earlier. I spoke out of my own frustration. I apologize to those I told to **** off. It sucks when you the gain back 40 pounds you worked so hard to take off without barely noticing, but I've already taken 15 of it off, so I just need to continue working on the rest. Just gotta deal with my own ****, yeah other have it better than me, but others have it a lot worse. I can't keep complaining like a b**** because ultimately if I was putting enough effort in, I wouldn't be in the bad shape I'm in now. I just think you guys don't fully understand that people's weight is the ultimate thing they are self-concious about and a little understanding would be nice thats all.
