Horrible Video: Us Soldier Throws Puppy Off Cliff.

It only take one or two bad acts to undone hundreds of good acts by our soliders over there. That's why invading other countries is almost never a good idea.

 

why is this relevant?

was this a choice between human life and a dog's life? was the dog some sort of sacrifice who died in place of a human? but for this dog being thrown over a cliff, someone would be dead?

 

agreed..and more to the point, war is intensely dehumanizing.

 

That's why no one with a brain and a conscience starts one except under the most extraordinary circumstances.

 

dang, you got me there.

 

because it reflects the amount I care about a few dogs (hundreds thousands whatever) being killed in a war zone compared to how much I care about Marines and soldiers being killed, and innocent people.

 

Either yer for Dogs, or ginst em.


I am just wondering why there is a puppy roaming around in Iraq in the first place.

 

Dude. It was an innocent puppy. Why?

 

Just curious. Would anyone have cared if it was a rat, or an oppossum, or a kitten?

 

In the span of an hour Casey has decided that the deaths of innocent people wouldn't be "awesome". Curious.

 

Kitten yes.

Possum or rat no. It wouldn't be as disgusting to hear about/watch....

But then again I'd still think of the soldier as less human. Killing something not for sport/food but simply to see what it'd look like as it dies is kinda sick.*

*notable exceptions to this are if the rat/possum tried to bite/claw soldier's face off. revenge killing animals is not recommended, but acceptable.

 

We already have a twisted culture in America when dealing with our pets. We get outraged at single incidents like this, but 7-8 million dogs and cats are euthanized every year. And that's down from the 17-18 million annual deaths from the 90s.

The reactions on the net are laughably insane.

 

The story is important because it represents the degradation of a particular representative of our country that is symbolic of the effects of war on every participant. The desensitizing, dehumanizing aspect of war cannot be ignored, no matter how noble one thinks the cause.

You claim to care more about soldiers than dogs... no problem there... but you don't seem to realize that the person who threw the dog off has most likely been changed forever because of his experiences in war... and there are thousands more who have been affected... maybe not to this degree and maybe not in ways that are overtly manifested, but in ways that may eventually be harmful.

 

Some of those people are going crazy overboard.

I do think there's a difference between euthanization and videotaping throwing puppies off of a cliff. Am I just crazy or something?

 

Yes. I'd be outraged. If it was an innocent creature, especially a baby. I do hold dogs and cats to a higher standard than I do other animals, I would still be outraged either way. This guy who did this is a sick b*stard and I want to fight him.

 

I guess comparing the significance of one animal death to 8 million from within our borders is crazy, but I think it's relevant to the discussion.

The euthanasia number is a solid statistic and a symptom. Many more roam the streets living a harsh life. That USA Today article goes into more detail of how animals are products to be consumed and subsequently abandoned. There are simply more pets than there are homes to keep them.

Our country does not value our pets as much as we say we do. We do to a certain extent, but if our mistake of not spaying or neutering the pets causes more pets, we're not likely to own up to it. If they don't fit our expectations, we can easily cut our losses.

 

Misinformed. Not all euthanized pets get an injection. So if you disregard the method used to kill, than the only thing is motive which someone already gave a plausible explanation for.

 

I agree that treatment to animals is can be related to health of mind, but people kill animals all the time. And in much less humane ways.

 

I could understand that, but for the love of all that is holy, don't freakin' videotape it. It makes people question why it was done in the first place. This kinda crap getting out hurts our soldiers in the long run.

So we're in the middle of a war where the most important thing is trying to win the hearts and minds of these people...make them know that we're not inhuman, that we're there to help...hmm, how should we go about it?

I know!

LET'S THROW PUPPIES OFF MOUNTAINS AND VIDEOTAPE!!!!

It's an exaggeration, but come on! There has got to be a better way to go about it.

 

Well video taping anything is stupid (ask mario williams), but practically, I think they could have either chunked it, shot it or pounded its head into the ground. Throwing it is the easiest, and its debatable which one is the "kindest". I doubt it lived after it hit the ground but when you shoot something, (even in the head) it usually jerks around for a good few minutes. If you only get a heart/lung shot it can live for a several minutes, and possibly run away.