whats your ****ing point? quit being an obvious troll. seriously...can someone ban this guy for just very weak and obvious trolling?
competence: : [rquoter]NEW ORLEANS -- The federal government is shutting down the dredging that was being done to create protective sand berms in the Gulf of Mexico. The berms are meant to protect the Louisiana coastline from oil. But the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Department has concerns about where the dredging is being done. Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser, who was one of the most vocal advocates of the dredging plan, has sent a letter to President Barack Obama, pleading for the work to continue. Nungesser said the government has asked crews to move the dredging site two more miles farther off the coastline. "Once again, our government resource agencies, which are intended to protect us, are now leaving us vulnerable to the destruction of our coastline and marshes by the impending oil," Nungesser wrote to Obama. "Furthermore, with the threat of hurricanes or tropical storms, we are being put at an increased risk for devastation to our area from the intrusion of oil. Nungesser has asked for the dredging to continue for the next seven days, the amount of time it would take to move the dredging operations two miles and out resume work. Work is scheduled to halt at midnight Wednesday.[/rquoter]
Hi Basso I realize you are posting anything to criticize the administration and that's fine but I'll respond to the last post anyway. You do realize that the dredging option is not signed off by the scientific community and may cause more harm than good according to some studies.
That's been proven a big 'no' over all these many years. You could do what I do: (1) ignore list, and (2) never, but never visit one of his threads, not even to view. If more people did this, it would of course mitigate his entirely predictable, illogical and useless posts.
Haven't you noticed by the articles basso's been posting? Our perpetually frightened and paranoid New Yorker is now an expert on the science of conservation, and oil and waste removal.
And so now, apparently, the cap has been removed because of an 'accident'? sigh It gets worse and worse and worse... Yup. why more people don't do this, I'll never know. I guess they get something out of it? Who knows.
What unmitigated bull ****. Every time I give any consideration to taking you off ignore, I run across a post like this. You seriously should consider getting professional help.
The dredging and building of berms don't protect squat since 1. they will fall apart when the first storm comes through 2. they merely push the oil to areas that haven't been damaged by oil and would not have been. In other words, they act like a funnel to push the oil to new places. It may temporarily protect one piece of land, but at the expense of anohter. Plus all the dredging efforts will affect the local wildlife as well. Considering all of this, do you think it's wise to push money into building this crap instead of things that actually do mitigate the damage??? It's like the whole thing about letting foreign ships in to do the work. How do you think Americans would feel if Obama "outsourced" the clean up effort. You think all those other foreign vessels are going to help out for free????
uhmmmm, they're building the berms further out, and wasting 7 days to do it, so your argument about the berms not working makes no sense. wrt the lifting the jones act, i would imagine most rational americans wouldn't care if it helped with the cleanup.
sweet lou, don't. this was a decent thread. there are pages and pages of people posting interesting fact-based articles, discussing the disaster, possible solutions and political implications. people from the industry were posting their perspective in a pretty calm and informative manner. .... and then we can all ignore the exact opposite of that when it appears (e.g. the well-known troll, or bassy one-note or however you would like to describe the most monotonic sound this side of the vuvuzela). Or you can engage it, ruining the thread in a way that is as predictable as the sun setting. Don't. Do. It. Nobody else is interested, including the poster in question.
It now looks like the "cap" is collecting more of the oil than before, just from visuals. It certainly doesn't look like there is as much oil and gas just flowing all around the cap. We'll see what they report later... http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int...se/STAGING/local_assets/html/Skandi_ROV2.html
1. There is no guarantee of a storm, or when. 2. Wouldn't funneling the oil make it collect in a concentrated area, making it easier to collect? I don't know all the details of where they plan to do it, but it seems there should be some sort of planning involved to make it easier to collect the oil that is redirected. Marshland should be protected as much as possible since they'd be the hardest to clean up without destroying, and is the start of much marine life, like shrimp. Beaches would be easier to clean up. Money issues would likely be footed by BP. The foreign ships would either bolster our efforts, or completely fill some areas which we are lacking, perhaps utilizing skimmers which we may not have any or enough of. I find it hard to believe that capable US ships would not have work to do. Most peope simply want the mess cleaned up.
We should just move the continent of floating trash in the Pacific all the way into the gulf... the trash could absorb the oil! and we'd be concentrating all our ills into one area! We could even close off the gulf (since it will be f'd anyway) and use it for nuclear testing.
the berms have not been shown to work, it's all speculation by the governer, not actual science. and lifting the jones act does what? most rational americans would rather pay for foreign companies to do the work instead of american workers? You act like there's an excess of cash and a shortage of workers. There's not.
