Heaven forbid Obama realized that BP was better equipped to deal with this disaster than any government agency. 'Obama agrees that private industry is better equipped to save the world!' I'm confused why conservatives aren't jumping on that talkingpoint over 'he did nothing'.
Agreed, but to see it visually represented with time and concentration taken into account is still startling... at least to me.
Since BP had a vested interest in playing the disaster down, once Obama found out how bad the situation was, he should have called in deep water drilling experts from Exxon, Texaco, Shell, Harry Stamper or wherever. He should have told the best of them to use whatever resources they needed but "Fix it. Fix it quickly and fix it right!" The bill could then have been sent to BP. In the interim he should have ordered the Corps of Engineers to start building levees and oil-catching structures to protect the marshes. Even if these measures had failed, he would not have looked like a dithering incompetent ... as he does now.
Hindsight is 20/20. At first we thought it was spewing a 1000 barrels a day. Then 3000. Then 5000. Now well over 10,000. It didn't look nearly as bad until the estimates kept changing. You can say he didn't respond enough initially, but the initial estimates simply weren't as devastating. But yes, Obama is terrible and a dithering incompetent for trusting scientific estimates and not being able to predict the future.
He continued to trust BP for solutions long after it was reported how badly BP was underestimating the flow of oil when he could easily have turned to domestic expertise that had no vested monetary interest. Obama could have offered outside deep water expert incentives like reduced lease prices elsewhere. However, even without incentives, the other oil companies want the spill stopped because this is in their backyard. Unfortunately, Obama is a theorist -- not a realist or a solution-oriented type.
Can somebody tell me how that cap is attached and what is to prevent it from shooting off under pressure when they close the vents?
Very sincere question: who are you talking about? A rival oil company? A merry band of university scientists and engineers? People from the national labs? Bechtel? I don't think any of those groups would have been a good idea. For better or worse, the expertise is involved in the people who made the damned hole. I don't think that particular dog hunts. He's into rhetoric, but in day-to-day practice, he's more pragmatic than theoretical. Many would say he's pragmatic to a fault, as in "what do you really stand for then?" That's almost the opposite of a theorist, if I understand how you're using the term.
To say nothing of his inability to change into superman (or, uh, aquaman?) and zoom to the bottom of the ocean to plug the well with his fist.
They already are there. The whole industry is trying to help BP as much as they can. What "magical" resources have not been utilized thumbs? Jindal's plan is not trivial (as has been discussed previously) and there is no way to quickly gauge the long term impacts/effectivity. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Would you buy BP stock right now at $37? Or, too much turmoil and volatility can be seen on the horizon with all the lawsuits? If this cap works, then it could jump back up quickly to over $50.
wow. i am really glad i haven't been reading the boards for the past month. my dad works for a company involved in this, and it has consumed our entire lives. the vast majority of posters, and americans, have absolutely no clue what is being done to fix this and how. all i have to share is tony hayward is the biggest ******* i have ever met.
Thats completely not true. We all watch CNN, so therefore we are very well informed. Anderson Cooper told me so.
What would you have Obama do that actually could make a difference. he's absolutely powerless to affect the outcome. And it appears so is BP. The only thing that can be done is to drill a relief well. Had our laws been like Canada's, that would have already been done. The problem only was in that safety was sacrificed because companies like BP wanted to skirt them and got the greedy right wing to push that true. This is Chaney's and the oil industry cronies Bush put into office that caused this mess. And there's no way to clean it up. No way to prevent a disaster or contain it. Bush's failure with Katrina was mainly an incompetent department. Obama's failure was the same with the oil spill. The difference was that Bush is the one who made BOTH departments incompetent by his appointees and administration. Whereas Obama's was that he didn't clean up the mess in the department soon enough. Obama could have done more to address problems in the department and how thigns were done - but probably would not have made a difference. However, it the eyes of public preception, it would have made a difference. If Obama had made a big deal about changing things and saying he was worried about the safety of offshore drilling and that we needed to change the way it was done to make it safer and prevent leaks - he would have gotten a lot more leeway from the public when this disaster started. But really, all the negative issues with Obama is all based on perception - that he didn't make enough public brouhaha early enough. fact is, nothing he could have done would have altered the current state we are in.
I'd have to really be sold on their solution in order for me to buy BP stock and expect a jump. Quite frankly, I'm not sold on anything they do right now.
If I had significant cash, I would. It may linger for awhile, but its a buy. BP isn't going anywhere and once they clean up the imagine, it will start to rapidly climb again.
and You know that the Jindal proposed levees and oil-catching structures were not rejected by Obama but the Army Corps of Engineers themselves, right? You know why they were initially rejected? Because they have never been tried! They are so experimental and conceptual that experts questioned whether they would actually do more harm than good! Building the "Great Wall of Louisiana" as Jindhal wanted would have a price tag of a billion dollars and take 9 months to complete. And one tropical storm in a season forecasted to be one of the worst in history would wipe out all the work. Plus the environmental impact of dredging up the sand along hundreds of miles of coast could actually worsen the disaster by funneling oil into the Mississippi River Delta and thus expose even more area to disaster. It's a great political move by Bobby there, but you know what, it's a stupid idea that just wastes badly needed resources. The sand they have now is needed to restore beaches after hurricanes and if you use it by dumping into the ocean now you won't have it later to fight erosion. It's ironic how you label Obama as being "too theoretical" for not endorsing "theoretical" ideas that aren't endorsed by the scientific community, the Army Corps of Engineers, nor environmental experts. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-oil-spill-berms-20100606,0,7544795.story
LAME. It's great if you have better knowledge about BP's efforts than most everyone on this basketball BBS here. What's cool about this BBS is that the people who know what they're talking about on an issue share it. Thanks for telling us about hayward, but type a few sentences about what's really going on, according to your dad, et alia.
Lets not forget that Thumbs friends in the Tea Party have been protesting against greater government regulation while demanding more drilling.
