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Honor Killings in Pakistan

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Dec 25, 2005.

  1. AMS

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    bigtexx if you wanted the answer to the question you wrote, you would have asked it, not cited it before an article with your mind already made up...

    i wrote a paper with this subject as a little para....


    let me quote my work

     
  2. AMS

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    ... its absurd to put this as a blame on the religion because there are plenty of MUSLIM societies where this does not occur, never mind the fact that it is AGAINST the teachings of islam
     
  3. AMS

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    these crimes also occured during the power of benzir bhutto, and men walked free during those time as well, they happened in india during the time of indira ghandi, in bangladesh during zia's term...

    the problem is not due to the religion, but infact due to the people taking the relgion out of context...
     
  4. BabyClutch

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    Exactly what I wanted to say. Thankyou
     
  5. R0ckets03

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    The problem is not religion. The problem is not race. The problem is not relegated to a single country.

    The problem (like most of the problems such as these) is the direct result of lack of education.

    Instead of starting wars all over the world, if we had spent all of that money on education this world would be a much better place.
     
  6. nyquil82

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    Apparently, this is part of christianity. :rolleyes:
     
  7. mleahy999

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    When are these people going to realize it's no longer 562 B.C. and join the rest of civilization?
     
  8. bplld

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    A significant part of the blame has to go on religion. It isnt regional, these things stretch all the way into Africa. How is that regional?

    He killed his 4, 8, and 12 year old daughters so they wouldnt run away.
     
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    I would ask you to define "civilization", but I am betting that I already know what you're going to reply with. But yes, you're right, any peoples that lived around 563 B.C. were not 'civilized', so the Greek and the Pharoahs and the Chinese and various African kingdoms could not have been 'civilized'.

    I love informed discussions! :rolleyes:
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Riiiight....and how many of those civilized people thought that it was ok to do Honor kilings?

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    I can't remember, did the Greek Gods allow it? What about the Egyptian religion?

    Hmmm....seems to be isolated to the Muslim faith....although it is twisted as such...sure seems to be an easy religion to twist....
     
  11. CometsWin

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    Pakistani Father Slays 4 Daughters in 'Honor Killings'
    Sunday, December 25, 2005

    MULTAN, Pakistan — A father, angry that his eldest daughter had married against his wishes
     
  12. DaDakota

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    2 wrongs do not make a right.

    The only way these Honor killings stop is for their society to prosecute any man that does this.....

    As long as their society even thinks that it is ok, nothing will change.

    DD
     
  13. CometsWin

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    I agree, murder is wrong. I also think blaming Islam for any wrongful act committed in a predominantly Muslim country is idiotic. Islam teaches that the killing of even one innocent person is like killing all humanity. Blame the man, blame the ignorance, blame the poverty, but leave the religion out of it.
     
  14. glynch

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    The inexcusable fundamentalist excesses of some Muslims do not excuse the fundamentalist excesses of Bush and his loyal followers, many of whom are members of easily twisted variants of Christianity.

    Tariq Ali had it right when he entitled his book on Bush and Bin Laden, "The Clash of Fundamentalisms".

    Fox News sure knows how to set off the dittos and good ol boys.
     
  15. davidwu

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    It's not isolated to the Muslim faith at all. Just one hundred years ago, it not uncommon the people committing adultery in China's countryside killed by family members in public. Normally not immediate family members, but respected members of the whole village (share the same family name). The common execution method was trapping in a cage and sinking it in a pond.

    It's a cultural thing which could be eliminated by better education and removal of poverty, as far as I can see.

     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    I just don't think a lot of people can accept a religion that "prescribes lashings".
     
  17. R0ckets03

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    Is that why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world? The majority of Muslims are not fundamentalists.

    You guys that talk about tackling these problems as a "group", what exactly would you have us do? How do you know that we are already not trying to do something about it?

    In our mosque, we have groups whose only purpose is to help out women with any problems. We have groups whose members volunteer to go to third world countries for a year to teach in schools.

    Our mosque constantly teaches us to support the country we live in, to educate ourselves, to educate our children, to volunteer our time to different causes, we have seminars on Islam (no they do not teach us how to blow up people), and countless other things.
     
  18. El_Conquistador

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    But isn't the overwhelming force behind that statistic the incredibly high birthrates in Muslim countries? I read today that in Saudi Arabia, a female has an average of over SIX children. My guess is that they would all be Muslim...

    With the huge rise in anti-Muslim sentiment as a result of terror in the world, something tells me that Muslims aren't going out and converting Hindus and Christians to their religion...
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    Well, the DC sniper converted to Islam. It can happen.

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  20. R0ckets03

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    I am sure the birthrate is part of it. Either way, I personally am on no crusade to convert as many Christians, Jews and Hindus to Islam as possible.

    Sure there is anti-Muslim sentiment, but I think it mostly exists in the US, Wester Europe and a few other countries. I have friends in South America that could care less. Most countries in Asia and Africa could care less.

    Actually I think there is much more anti-American sentiment then anti-Islam.
     

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