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Homeless shelter set to destroy Midtown's redevelopment

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by El_Conquistador, Mar 17, 2003.

  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I hate to say anything (so why am I?? :confused: ), but a large shelter was built about a block from 6th Street in Austin and it's been a disaster (well, a royal pain in the ***). It was desperately needed, but not next to the city's major entertainment district and a big tourist draw.

    I haven't lived in Houston for over 20 years now, so I don't know if this is comparable at all, but I've lived in the mid-town area. I enjoyed it. The rents were cheap and it was diverse, which I like. It seems like a good area for a facility for Vets, based on what I know from a long time ago. I'm very abivalent, but only on the location, and I don't know **** about it. (See? I should kept my mouth shut!)
     
  2. Drewdog

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    What street? I grew up in CF (12 years) - Kempton Park Dr.
     
  3. HayesStreet

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    To ASSERT implies stating confidently without need for proof or regard for evidence...
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Thanks, that is fascinating. Would anyone else care to share some fun and exciting definitions of words? It makes for great conversation.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    T_J:

    Your scorn for the unfortunate never ceases to amaze me. That you have now extended that scorn to unfortunate veterans though just blows my mind. I really can't imagine what gets you out of bed in the morning. See the Wizard about a heart.
     
  6. HayesStreet

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    I'm sure if you keep writing there will be more words you use with little understanding of what they mean. To declare that you have made an 'assertion' is to declare there is no logical backing for what you have to say. In addition, one cannot have a conversation composed merely of assertions, and resolution is impossible.

    Congratulations, you are not very bright. And that is no assertion.
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I have a fun definition!

    heartless: (adj.) (1) Devoid of compassion or feelings; pitiless.
    (2) Archaic Devoid of courage or enthusiasm; spiritless.

    This is fun! :)
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Hayes, I hate to point out that you have this underlying assumption that others share your interest in conversation. :(
     
  9. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Thanks Grammarian
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    Grammarian usually has little to contribute to a discussion and possesses few effective weapons. To compensate, he will point out minor errors in spelling and grammar. Because of Grammarian's obvious weakness most Warriors ignore him.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    As a homeowner in the area, I actually rather like the idea. The hotel that is there now is a detriment to the community and it would be good for that space to be put to better use. Its proximity to the freeway, I think, actually puts it right on the border of any community, where most viable investments would be difficult. I also don't think it any shame that it drives condo builders away -- the last thing that neighborhood needs, imo.
     
  11. F.D. Khan

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    Champions Hamlet Subdivision: On Champion's Forest Drive and Strack Road. In the big red wall !!

    Its Crazy...on 1960 and Champions Forest there are numerous bums out there. I thought the Doneraki guy with his sign was bad before and now this!!
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    Damn, Hayes, I guess this means you won't be going to Earl Boykins's birthday party. I bet he'll have a Moonwalk too.
     
  13. heypartner

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    trader_jorge. of topic, but you said you wanted tickets to Smeggy's game. I'm can't buy without money in hand, and your cc.net email doesn't seem to be working. send me an email.
     
  14. Live

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    Shocking.

    An actual resident of midtown gives some thoughtful insight into this proposed project, and certain people don't bother to refute him. (Maybe because this situation isn't as "Chicken Little" as it seems.)

    Actually, its not shocking at all.

    JV, great points.
     
  15. HayesStreet

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    Hmmmm....my background is in argumentation and logic, which is why I'm trying to alert you that you sound like a village idiot proclaiming your pride in your 'assertion.' Its less a 'minor' error in grammar or spelling than it is a total inability to comprehend what the word you are using means. But then I guess that's kind of pointless since by definition you are uninterested in logic. Why don't you try writing in all capital letters. You might find yourself more convincing that way :p ... Of course, its probable that you are the village idiot...

    Buck,

    I always get an invite to Sweet Bobby Sura's parties. Mainly because I use the tried and true ruse of adding 'Sweet' to his name before trying to unload him on some unknowing victim in my fantasy leagues every year! It is a well known fact that a marginal player is easier to trade if he has a nickname.
     
  16. El_Conquistador

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    Juan your points, while well-intentioned, are simply wrong. Viable investment is not difficult in the area where the shelter is being proposed. There are several large office buildings in the area, a brand new grocery store, and many condos/apartment complexes. The article I posted cited a residential complex in the works which would be right next to the proposed shelter site. Unfortunately, the site is much less valuable with homeless people next door, as the developer prudently states. In the absence of the homeless, it appears as though this is a very *popular* place to invest, not a difficult one as you seem to imply. I'm not sure why you regard condo's as something bad for the neighborhood. Condo's will bring affluent residents with money to spend. This represents an enormous welcome sign for new business investment and economic development. When the light rail is up and running, this will be a very valuable location. Developers *will* put this site to good use. Injecting homeless people with substance abuse problems will destroy any hopes of revitalization that the area currently has.

    Build the shelter, just do it somewhere else where the economic damage will be muted.
     
  17. MR. MEOWGI

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    Why don't they let the homeless dive for nickels at the new aquarium?

    Destroy Midtown's redevelopment? Nah.

    Oh yeah, fu@k affluent residents. :p
     
  18. mrpaige

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    That's actually kind of interesting because I've had the opposite experience. I encounter few homeless people now than I did during the "boom times" of 1997 through early 2000.

    I assume that part of that is the fact that I moved from Arlington to Plano (why Arlington had a larger panhandling population is unknown to me), though I still do spend a considerable amout of time in my old neighborhood in Arlington.

    Just an interesting side-note.

    As for the shelter, I don't know.
     
  19. F.D. Khan

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    You are absolutely correct. I currently own property near Allen Parkway and Shepard and was looking at land near the South East corner of downtown where the Rail would be and was turned off by the local population. I feel I have a vision, but seeing that Day's Inn turned into a homeless shelter would completely turn me away from the area. Its a negative that is being pushed with government subsidized funds and it will hurt the businesses in the area and future development.

    I don't think the homeless and the center's near minute maid park have had an effect because its different seeing a game near the area versus having your family or workplace nearby.

    What annoys me about downtown is that Main street is bringing Richmond trash down there now. A few years back it was a bit more exclusive and just a better environment, now its idiots driving in cirlcles in their honda.
     
  20. F.D. Khan

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    And the Aquarium btw is garBage as well.

    First off you have the gaudy blue ferris wheel and then a bunch of gaudy crap like the cafe with show's and the gift shop. Then you have overpriced Joe's Crab Shack food and the bar is the size of a closet and they don't even have Red Bull at the bar to mix with! I thought Tillman Fertitta had better taste than this. The one in Kemah was nicer because it was not as gaudy and crammed feeling.
     

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