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Home Mold problem discovered. What to do???

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Gummi Clutch, Mar 15, 2005.

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  1. Fatty FatBastard

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    Ahem, and I believe I quoted correctly "Mold Is Not A Health Risk.".

    Go ahead, scroll back up and read it again...

    Whick part are y'all not reading correctly???:p :p :p
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I don't understand why any doctor would make the statement:

    "while indoor mold might aggravate certain types of allergies and asthma conditions, mold is not a health risk"

    If I have asthma, and indoor mold aggravates it, that is certainly a health risk to me.
     
  3. Fatty FatBastard

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    Aggrivating an asthma condition or an allergy is considered an irritant. One that goes away when you're not around it, i.e. your health goes back to where it was. It does not deteriorate your health. Hence, it isn't a health risk.
     
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    I just read it again ............"all agreeing that while indoor mold might aggravate certain types of allergies and asthma conditions, mold is not a health risk.

    i said "If you have pre existing respiratory conditions, mold can make the symptoms worse." ..........the article you cited confirms that "propaganda"
     
  5. pasox2

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    You had a water leak. It's been there for a while, so the damp wood and sheetrock got mold and mildew. No big deal.

    You need to repair the leak, and replace the damaged wood cabinets, sheetrock, and any insulation in that area. Spray everything down with bleach and clean up. If you can't do it yourself, it's really just a handyman job. Look in the greensheet or your local area newpaper for a small repair contractor. There's also contractor lists.

    You don't need "remediation", likely. It would be a VERY BAD IDEA to report this to your insurance, IMHO, unless you have CATASTROPHIC damage. A "panic" report for a small claim would flag your property and you as problems, and you might end up with a house you can't sell or insure, and trouble getting insurance ever again. Oh yeah, they say that doesn't happen, we have laws to protect the consumer. Uh huh.

    Unless there's a lot more hidden damage, (and there really shouldn't be) this is a simple problem, you should just fix it.
     
  6. MadMax

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    i agree entirely, with one caveat. mold grows pretty quickly. if it grew up the inside of the wall, you've got a problem. push against the wall to see if it feels moist or soft. if it does, that handyman need to be replacing some sheetrock as well. you'd be surprised how far it can grow up a wall in a short amount of time.
     
  7. Fatty FatBastard

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    No, it is stating that mold could irritate certain conditions. It doesn't say it makes them worse. There is a vast difference.

    For example, I'm allergic to avocado's. If I eat one, it will aggravate my allergies. It will not cause my health to worsen.
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Based on that statement, I assume you would consider it necessary for those suffering from asthma or other respiratory ailments to have mold removed from their home.

    This would seem to contradict your earlier statement "Mold does nothing to harm people". By your own admission (as well as the various doctors and other medical experts) mold does harm those with pre-existing conditions. To what degree, may be arguable, but the fact remains, that mold will irritate pre-exsiting conditions. If I had asthma, I certainly would consider that irritant a health risk.
     
  9. MadMax

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    i don't know a ton about the black mold..and all the health risks...but i know the jury isn't entirely out as to the conclusion these guys made at this conference (referenced in Fatty's link). the legal industry has virtually no stake in the game anymore now that insurance companies are excluding coverage..so that's no longer an issue. i know some very prominent attornies around town set up shops on plaintiff and defense sides...only to have those practices crater when the insurance industry said, "eh, no more mold coverage, then."

    i have a friend of a friend who ended up with, according to doctors, neurological damage tied to mold. i'm not a doctor...so i don't know all the facts of it or the theories behind it. but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night. this guy was an accountant who could no longer function in his job. ended up being a big problem with moldy new construction up in the woodlands.
     
  10. Fatty FatBastard

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    A "health risk" is something that causes your health to decline.

    Mold doesn't do this with either allergies or asthma.
     
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    And i NEVER said it would make anyone's health worse

    i said it would make the pre-existing respiratory symptoms worse, which your article agrees with

    aggravate .....irritate .......make worse ............six one half dozen and the other
     
  12. Fatty FatBastard

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    OK, but I'm not seeing how you disagree with it not being a health risk?

    To me: Health risk=making health worse.

    Am I missing something?
     
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    I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING A HEALTH RISK ..so I am not agreeing or disagreeing with that

    again ..here is what I said, which YOU ARE MISSING, " If you have pre existing respiratory conditions, mold can make the symptoms worse.

    Thats all I said. Your article agrees with that.

    What are you arguing with me about exactly?
     
  14. Fatty FatBastard

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    This is what I originally wrote. You said I was incorrect. Everyone did the "You Got Served!!!" dance.

    That's what I'm arguing about.:p
     
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    I never said your original statement was incorrect. I only said that " If you have pre existing respiratory conditions, mold can make the symptoms worse." I was clarifying a generalized statement that you made.

    However, you did call my original statement propaganda, so you were indeed incorrect after the fact.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Asthmatics have problems breathing, which, if not treated can lead to serious health issues including death. I would think that anything that makes breathing even MORE difficult is a health risk (unless hospitalization or death is not a health risk).
     
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    Touche. You win that.
     
  18. Fatty FatBastard

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    In a way similar to a pollen sufferer could die during pollen season.

    Could it happen? Anything's possible.

    Likelihood? Bloody small.
     
  19. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, just as pollen sufferers should be wary of their environment so too should asthma sufferers. With that in mind, it is a potential health risk for asthmatic sufferers to live in a mold infested environment. Removing themselves from that environment (or removing that environment from them) will cause their asthma to not be irritated and decrease their chance for an asthmatic event.

    In addition, it is widely agreed that exercise is essential to good health. With additional irritants for asthma sufferers (as well as other sufferers of respiratory problems) due to household mold, it makes it more difficult for them to exercise, thus causing them to lead a less healthy lifestyle which increases other health risks.
     
  20. Dr of Dunk

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    I think you're wanting him to have said it more than he said it, so you can make a stand against "those damn mold freaks!" :)
     

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