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Home Depot Employee Fired for Wearing "God.." Button

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    It's a hypothetical.

    Would you hypothetically blow your boss? Answer the question.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    what if your boss was a woman? i mean, hypothetically think of them as not barefoot and pregnant.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Depends on how hot she is.
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    i would hypothetically do it. just wouldn't realistically. :)
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    If it's company policy though, I'd just have to explain it to girlfriend. I'm sure she'd be cool with it.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    Maybe he thinks the monetary outcome is an indictment on his God's plans.
     
  7. Shovel Face

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    Religion is much more than a belief system, it is also culture and tradition. You just wont acknowledge it. Your simple yes and no is a joke, just like liberal hypocrisy.
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    because it was made mandatory in 1908.

    and your original words were we can thank the cold war for it being on there, but it was on there a century before that. So you are way off. I am a total nerd and collect coins. You had your facts wrong. end of story.
     
  9. Lil Pun

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    My point was that that argument has no merit.
     
  10. cavevato

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    Could you elaborate on what you think it means to be a Christian. I hope its not living your life like Jesus, because you never will. Him refusing to not wear the pin does not make him "not a Christian". Just like wearing a pin doesnt make him one.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I think MadMax is saying actions are more important than symbols.
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    There is a law that deals with that, if your boss tells you to blow him, you sue for sexual harrassment.

    It isn't illegal for an employer to have and enforce a dress code.
     
  13. Beck

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    ...or words. The Church has a lot to say about a lot of things, but doesn't do enough. The Church can speak out against crime, but they don't reach out to criminals. I know some churches do, and many individuals do. But, as a whole, the Chrisitian community can do more to teach by example.
     
  14. IROC it

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    FWIW - I don't think it's persecution of the "church."

    I do get the dress code thing. I've worked with dress codes and uniforms quite a bit.

    I would not personally wear a button like that. Never did. I even speak against "bumper sticker faith" and "t-shirt Christians." Most of you know what I do... and those that know me well enough have heard me on these topics in person. I would cringe every time someone bought me a t-shirt from a Christian bookstore thinking they were hooking me up. There is literally one hanging in a closet that was bought for me in about 1987 that I only tried on to let the gift giver see it fit me.

    I am with MadMax 100% about living the life being the ultimate testimony. No disagreement there.

    I am just failing to believe he put up some struggle to wear the thing, that's all. It simply says he refused. Okay, how many times? I'm sure the details will come out, but don't most companies have a written warning system to avoid lawsuits about these types of things? Wouldn't you think the legal representation would be privy to that process and be on to something here, like maybe they had not followed protocol?


    And no, Groogrux, I would say it's just as harmless for an employee to wear any single 3" button they feel like. So long as it's one (unless you work where flair is encouraged), and you're warned if it's out of code properly, etc.

    Again, I wasn't there... I'm not condoning insubordination, I just doubt a year of warnings were issued.


    It seems highly suspect that he got the can after bringing the reading material of his faith to work with him.

    Would it happen with the Quran? I don't know. That's speculation.


    I doubt it would matter to many that if I were his superior, and I had to ask him to fall in line and remove the button, I would do so. But I would.

    I'm just kind of taken aback by the content being seen as "offensive."


    Profanity on a button, I can see. Anti-Home Depot stuff, sure.


    But a line from the Pledge, while IN the US?

    That's my main deal. Can he not walk around and occasionally recite the PoA either?


    Take the button off, dork. But I doubt that "simply" what this is.


    If anything, your elementary and US History teachers should be the ones upset about the button being offensive. I recall learning the Pledge in kindergarten.

    It's harmless.
     
  15. cavevato

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    Seems like it. Often, I choose not to "keep peace" Yet I still consider myself a Christian. If your going by actions, then I dont think Christians exist. They may have become extinct when Jesus died.
     
  16. IROC it

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    I think its along the lines of... walking into a garage makes you no more an automobile than walking into a church makes you a Christian.


    kinda vague analogy, but...


    or


    Wearing a UT t-shirt makes you no more guaranteed to be UT grad or student than wearing a Christian symbol on your clothing makes you guaranteed to be a believer in Christ, or a genuine article.



    I will admit solidly this... there have been too many "Christians" merge a supposed "Patriotism" with their religion... until it's almost an inseparable, cultism in and of itself.

    So, I also get what DonnyMost is saying...


    I'm just saying I want to know what the kid really did to "refuse" versus the protocol for firing an insubordinate employee is at HD. When we fired idiots at a major retail grocery store I worked for right out of high school, we had to have three written warnings, after two verbal ones... That was in 1990.

    Could be different in 2009 for HD, but I would venture a guess that the corporate legal eagles would have even better fail safe coverage in place now days, given the litigious society we have become.




    I wish the story never happened myself. The kid is misguide in his love for that one line of the Pledge.


    On the other hand, if you feel strongly enough about something, then go have your shot in court. I'll decline on that trivial of a matter myself.


    Now, if they say, "renounce your God or die" then I'm a dead man.




    But that's waaayyyyyyyyyy larger than a 3" button dress code violation.
     
  17. thegary

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    culture and religion are belief systems.
    liberal hypocrisy is your way of saying: i can't think for myself.
    bwa
    ha
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    Has it been pointed out that the CEO who implemented this policy, Frank Blake, is a Christian and who has political experience having worked with the elder George Bush?

    Those evil Christian Republicans who are out to get other Christian Republicans through their liberal hypocrisy?
     
  20. B-Bob

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    It took you this long to figure out this central axiom? There's nothing strange about it, pending your school of logic.
     

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