Hollywood liberal opens mouth, removes doubt of his stupidity

I like him as an actor. And I just don't disagree enough with what he said to get upset about it. I would criticize him if it were something that got me worked up and steaming. It didn't... not what I've seen quoted.

There are plenty of liberals I can't stand. Ralph Nadir makes me want to blow chunks, for example. Depp is an actor who sometimes does great work. I respect that. And I respect the right of any American to give their opinions... especially if it's not to bait and anger the "other side" for their own pleasure.

That's not what you do, Mr. Clutch and I respect you for it. I think you need to not read too much into some of the reactions to what Depp said. The guy was just giving his opinions and many of us see it as just that. Giving his opinion.

It has nothing to do with his acting. Not for me. Reagan even did some work in films I can respect, once or twice. I'm not crazy about his politics. For me, it's two different things.

 

Excellent point! America rocks!

It's the government that sucks.

But I see what you're saying. You're not pounding him for being an actor saying something you don't agree with. You're pounding him for being an American saying something you don't agree with.

THAT, I respect 100-percent.

I don't agree with your sentiments, but pound away! You're an American, and free speech is what makes America awesome.

 

Plus... how can he be a Hollywood liberal if he lives in France?


Mr C and the neo-cons use that term like it's something dastardly. Oooooh Hollywood liberal... hide the kids.

 

He is entitled to his opinion. And, we are entitled to blow it off.

What is the problem here?

DD

 

Mr. Clutch, I don't think people are telling you that you can't think what he said is stupid or that he is a moron. I don't know if the point has been articulated, but it has to do with influence. Depp doesn't really have any. You mentioned Falwell and you are right, he's not a dictator, but he is a spiritual leader. I mean, when I listen to him and Roberts talk, I pretty much get the feeling that they tell people a vote for a Republican is a vote for Jesus, know what I mean? In year, you won't even remember that Depp had said this.

The reasons liberals aren't upset by this btw, is because it isn't boudmouthing america, it's badmouthing the current people in charge, people who continue to make decisions we mostly disagree with. Would you call all the conservative leaders who were against going into Kosovo dumb for making a big stink about it? No, but you can call them hypocrites though for complaining about people who were against the Iraqi war.

 

I wouldn't be so quick with the "neo-con" label, Timing. Mr. C may not fit the bill, I don't know.

I think we're a little too quick to put labels on people around here.
I'm a Democrat... well, in some circles that instantly puts me in the "lunatic left-wing fringe". The reality is that I have a whole bunch of beliefs, depending on the topic, and find the labeling thing is frequently used too often based on a stand on a particular issue... not knowing or caring how the person might feel about a host of things you might agree with. I think the "far right" is most guilty of using the "labeling" tactic, and deserve the "labeling" they get, but some on the other side of the spectrum can be just as quick to do it.

Just a thought.

 

1. A Republican making a racist comment is not the same. Anyone making a racist comment is not the same. A Republican actor making similar comments about Clinton would be a valid comparison. And in that case, I would call him a buffoon, but I wouldn't want to revoke his citizenship.

2. I barely recognize your name, don't know anything about your psychological profile, but the fact you think you have one disturbs me for reasons I should not have to explain. I don't know Achebe, except that excess seemed his trademark. I don't intend to ever go hunting any thread. I will never belong to the informal group who use thread retrival as a method of arguing anything.

3. I think most Hollywood types are airheads in general, and most have almost no real political convictions. You're lucky if they show up for something, and most don't part with much of their cash to support the views they espouse. As a group, they're pretty meaningless except as eye candy at campaign functions.

 

Johnny Depp's brilliant work in foreign policy should not be scoffed at, Mr. Clutch. His contributions to political thought have been insightful and thought provoking. The ground-breaking conclusions that he drew while formulating the 'dumb puppy' doctrine were awe-inspiring.

 

Thanks FF...I just spit water all over my keyboard, freakin' hilarious!

 

speaking of dumb puppies, you can stop humping his leg now, Jorge

 

I agree with Mr. C that Depp was slamming America broadly, beyond the administration.

I think we're in agreement that he's not necessarily a brilliant guy (uhh, Depp that is). His statements are in print because they sell print and he sells print because he looks like a male version of Helena Bonham Carter. (ever see them in the same movie? hmmm?)

As for the Puppy Doctrine, I don't follow it. The US has sharp teeth, but they are temporary baby teeth? And the US is much smaller than other nations? And the US loves to jump up on other nations and lick their faces? And the US loves to sleep a lot and play when it is awake?

Maybe the potty training part works, especially with all our luxury SUVs.

 

I'm a conservative and I couldn't give a sweet rats ass what these simpletons think about our foriegn policy. I admit, I'm mildly annoyed at first. Then I just shake my head and move on with my life...

I agree with FF about talk radio. I'll bet those boobs will be all over this.

 

enlighten me, my conservative brother

I'll give it a listen, but what is Pacifica?

 

I call bullsh*t on that one. Compare the hateful spew on 950 AM and Pacifica and it isn't even close. 950AM wins by a mile, especially since they fill their entire broadcast daywith their drivel.

 

I am fueled with a truckload of apathy for anything that most people in the entertainment business have t osay about politics, period. It doesn't rate criticism to me because Johnny Depp only makes a difference to me when he is flashing in and out of the moonlight sword fighting with Barbosa (aside: anyone else think the special effects should win some awards?).

If you are going to force me to tell you what I think about his comments, here you go:

America is dumb - It is hard to disagree, but I would change it to "Americans are dumb."

it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you - I don't think the US is like a puppy in any way, more like an unchained Rottweiler with big teeth that can bite and hurt you.

aggressive - How do you disagree with that?

Changing the name of "French fries" to "freedom fries" being stupid - This could be one of the most inane, stupid things to come out of Washington DC since "Just Say No."

 

yeah this is Chris Baker in the afternoon. I couldn't even make a living as a comic on a cruise ship, but now I say the word "utopian" twice a minute, and interrupt anyone I don't like by repeating "SIR" until they stop talking.

950 AM

all furor [fuehrer] all the time

 

I agree with you to a degree and Mr C may try to play himself off as a moderate conservative who enjoys making fun of Bill O'Reilly (ha) but as I've read he's to my recollection aligned without much exception with the policies of the far right. The real problem in my view is the tactic of conservatives even on this BBS yanking the center to the right and then claiming that real centrists are the lunatic liberal fringe. This is pretty much their specialty nowadays along with attacking people's patriotism for opposing this administration's policies.