[Hollinger] It took 1.6 seconds for Roy to catch-and-shoot

I will do whatever you need me to do for you to pay up, but as far as I'm concerned, the stopwatch method pretty much puts this argument to an end. It is indeed "about .8 seconds" and not nearly 1.6. Exactly as I said.

Get a clue, John Hollinger.

 

One more thing, the clock does not start on the CATCH...but on the first moment the ball touches his fingers while he is MAKING THE CATCH...and whether he gets the ball off of his fingers in under .8.....no way, I say.

DD

 

I gave you more than enough time to agree to the bet I made, which was based on something that we disagreed on (1.6 seconds or less) so it should have been easy to accept.

I'm not paying up on anything. I was 100% right and one way or another it will be proven beyond a doubt. Whether you deny it or not is the only question.

 

We're not talking under 0.8, we're talking about "about 0.8" and under 1.6.

I even provided a dramatically favorable example (started on the PASS and ended when Roy LANDED after the shot) and it was still under 1.6.

 

You said it could go up in .8 seconds...that he could catch it, pivot and shoot it in that time.

I will easily pay $10 if proven wrong....

But if you are using a video compression program, realize it REMOVES VIDEO FRAMES...thus causing a shortening of the time to make it run smoot on the computer.

Still show your evidence on here .....and we shall see.

DD

 

Here is the bet I offered......show me the proof and I will pay.

DD

 

Look, the guy made a tremendous shot so instead of debating whether he got "home cooking" from the clock operator, just focus on beating the clippers tonight.

 

Now you're just getting comical. I never said the shot was in less than 0.8 seconds. Go back and scour every single post I've made on the issue. You won't find me saying that.

I said that it was possible that it was good (based only on the fact that there was more than 0.4 on the clock and therefore couldn't be immediately ruled out) and that I thought it was "about 0.8 seconds" as opposed to the 1.6 that Hollinger claims.

Go ahead and twist the words in my posts, infer and assume what you want, but my argument was that it didn't take nearly 1.6 seconds to get that shot off and that it was more like "about 0.8 seconds".

On both counts, I am 100% correct.

 

Don't make no difference.

We will be the first seed in the west anyway. =)

 

yeah the rockets will focus on that, we are the fans, so i think we can focus on this

 

I don't care what times you get when you time it.

This is not Kenshin.

There is simply no way he performed that whole motion and had the ball completely out of his hands in .8 seconds.

 

The official timekeeper should be an NBA Referee, not an employee of the arena who most likely lives in the home team's city.

 

All that matters is the clock started EXACTLY when Yao caught it, and EXACTLY when Roy shot it.

That is also known as cheating.

 

Seems to me that there's no way in hell he got that off in .8, but there's not really anything we, the league, or the officials can do about it. As someone already posted, you can't review when the clock started if it starts in a reasonable amount of reaction time. And Im pretty sure this wasn't an egregiously late clock start, just ends up being bad luck for us. Whatever. It's just 1 loss outta 82, shouldn't end up mattering.

And for the record on the "officialness" of the superimposed TNT clocks, I would assume that it is directly tied into the real clock, as the NBA lists it as a legitimate clock to look at for instant replay. BUT, they rank it as the 5th timing device for officials to use. They're supposed to look at, in order;

1. Gameclock or shot clock on top of backboard.
2. LED lights.
3. Game clock on the facades of the balcony.
4. Game clocks on scoreboards hanging from the ceiling.
5. Superimposed TV clocks.

 

I talked to Morey today at a luncheon, and I asked about the shot. He said they measured it and it took .9 seconds, but the leagues official measurement was .8. He said something about the league adding .4 or something in situations like this. so it's over.

 

What's over? the time or the review

 

Thank you. Losses like these are best forgotten. The team can't sit there and dwell on it....they have 4 more road games against tough opponents that they need to focus on. It's a long season, and they are still in the position where they can ensure that this one loss means absolutely nothing in the standings.

 

Some people are freaking out like we lost a game 7 of the championship. We have bigger concerns in getting Battier back and healthy. Resigining Deke and more importantly building chemistry and figuring wtf is wrong with Yao. Also we are playing again tonight so I hope the players have a short term memory. Otherwise we will be in for a rude awakening in the Clip joint and it would be humiliating if we lost.

 

Well, "about" 0.8 seconds is not good enough to me. Roy needs to have shot it within the time allowed, (which wouldn't even have been there had the timekeepers not forgotten to run the clock at a certain point in the game). You may be "100%" correct, but the fact is that you're correct that he shot it around the .8 second mark, maybe .85 or .81. I'm still fairly certain that he did NOT get it off in time. Hell of a shot, but it shouldn't have counted.

 

the review. he also said the league didn't seem to want to rescind it. which is obvious, it's one of the most exciting finishes I've ever seen as a basketball, and depressing as a Rockets fan. He said we didn't deserve to win, and we needed to focus on tonight. He's a really nice guy.