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[Hollinger] It took 1.6 seconds for Roy to catch-and-shoot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Spacemoth, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. justtxyank

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    Didn't something like this happen between ATL and MIA last year and they replayed the final play?

    At least let that happen.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    Oh, look! A Blazers fan has come to visit. Welcome.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    That is a very interesting point Justtx.......

    What was that situation? I thought it had to do with them sending a player out for fouls when he had not fouled out yet....

    DD
     
  4. wekko368

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    That happened b/c Shaq had "fouled out" after being called for only 5 fouls.

    This is totally different.
     
  5. GermanRoxFan

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    if you watch the replay you'll see that the clock basically started the moment roy is already shooting the ball. it started a little too late and if the clock would've started when roy first catched the ball the shot would probably not have counted.
     
  6. Htown57

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    That's pretty telling right there. Oh well. I still don't think the league will change the call--its a big shot on national TV by an up-and-coming star in a really competitive game really early in the season. If you think about it, the last 2 seconds of that game contain enough content for a "Where Amazing Happens" ad. David stern won't kill one of his own children by overturning that shot.
     
  7. Austin70

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    He can talk all he wants now but we can see how things look in April, hopefuly Sam Bowie, I mean Greg Oden will have scored a point by then.
     
  8. WhoMikeJames

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    What I don't understand is all the talk about "favorable timekeeping"...

    ALSO KNOWN AS "CHEATING"...

    Don't the refs see that? Doesn't the league see that?
     
  9. yokel0123

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    there is no way to do all that in 0.8 second, period.

    And the photo clearly shows that. talk about home court advantage.
     
  10. ndnguy85

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    i say it over and over again..the most overlooked thing during these last seconds shot is WHEN THE CLOCK WAS STARTED! not if they released it in time.

    from the ref recognizing he caught the ball, giving the hand signal to the clock dude..who then processes that in his head and starts it..

    i timed it over and over again from when he caught the ball to when the buzzer went off and i get 1.2 secs minimum.
     
  11. lxnew2000

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    Yao was using his long arms and big body to block almost everything in front of the inbound passer, it is always a good strategy we have use it many times before.
     
  12. Htown57

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    They replayed the last 90 or so seconds of the game, because the officials had declared shaq fouled out at that point, and he wasn't (he only had 5).

    To add to the hilarity, Shaq got traded before the mulligan happened, so he didn't play anyway.

    The hawks won both games. I was there. Good times.

    Anyhow, I don't think that's precedent for replaying the last .8 of this game. I think the NBA mostly lives with minor timekeeper error, but can't ignore something as egregious as wrongly fouling a player out.
     
  13. DonkeyMagic

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    there was certainly questionable calls about when the clock starter a couple of times in the game but that is usually the case in those last second games. I don't know how you would fix the problem though...you just have to rely on a guys reaction flipping the switch to start the clock
     
  14. Jeff Who

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    And I agree with that. There is no way you can catch the ball and than rise up in 0,8 sec. We just got owned by refs.

    NBA should change their motto. NBA, where refs happen.
     
  15. jopatmc

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    The way to fix it is to have those last second buzzer beaters reviewed not only for if the shot was released but also for timeclock accuracy. That technology is clearly available and would be a snap to implement in video replay. It's stupid that the league is not already doing it since there are so many buzzer beater situations that have went down wrong because of human error from the timekeeper.
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    I'm sure the first thing Roy did when he turned around was see the shot clock. If the clock started on time, maybe Roy would have shot it more quickly.
     
  17. durvasa

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    The NBA gives extra time on final shots like that to take into account the delay in starting the clock. I remember some segment on NBA TV or something where the head of the refs said something like that. So, even though technically the clock is at 0.8 seconds, they actually allow maybe 1.1 or 1.2 seconds.
     
  18. min

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    I am not sure if anyone from the NBA actually reads this... but...

    http://www.nba.com/email_us/contact_us.html

    select "Officiating"

    and complain!!!

    there are enough of us clutchfans to flood their inboxes right!!?!?!

    maybe you can say something like...

    "Dear NBA,

    As a concerned NBA fan, I demand that the League reviews the last play of the Houston / Portland game. It is evident from the video that the Portland timekeeper does not start the clock until Roy clearly already has possession of the basketball.

    The integrity of the game must be the number one priority of the league!

    Thank you"
     
  19. XBLRocketman111

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    Is there any chance the league reviews the play and can still change the outcome of the game?
     
  20. min

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    ok... looks like you have to be a "Fan Center" member in order to e-mail the league office... so sign up for that first...

    Thank you! Your submission has been received.
    Only Fan Center members are able to e-mail the league office. Check out the other benefits of being a Fan Center member.

     

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