Did you watch the Sunday Night Vikings-Redskins game. Joe Gibbs got a turnover overturned via replay because there was an extra guy that didn't get on the field. Not to mention, TX already had a sideline warning in this game. I officiate high school football, and most high school teams are not that bad. I'll admit I can't stand Texas, but I don't think I am unbiased when I say that you can't have that many people on the field in front of and around a live ball and expect to get away with it. I have no idea how it was not called live though considering the official had to run through/around all the coaches out there.
I agree with that. Texas doesn't have too much reason to be upset, because multiple coaches being on the field should've led to an unsportsmanlike penalty live. However, to whistle them the way they did -- determining that the kid indisputably touched the ball upon instant replay -- is inexcusable. Whether it was to make the game close or simply to cover up the officiating crew's mistakes during the play, they far overstepped their bounds in doing that.
while i almost think they overturned it b/c we already had a sideline warning and then had all those people on the field, a) you see people on the field all the time w/o a penalty (while it was further from the action, we had people damn near 10 yards on the field on vince's 4th and 5 run for the title) and b) i'm pretty sure replay can't be used to make a penalty call like that. whatever call was made on the field, the incorrect one was made on instant replay. and i think we may have had people out there b/c they called intentional grounding and made it seem like the play was over when it was still live.
I can definitely agree with you guys on this though .. i have no idea how they conclusively said he touched the ball.
You know you may be correct on that ... one question. Were ANY players other than the 11 who were supposed to be on the field at that point? 12 men on the field can definitely be called via replay. Either way Texas brought it upon themselves, and I'm sure they all learned a valuable less that looks like it might not really cost them too much overall.
Yeah - I agree on the replay thing. The penalty would/should have been one of the following: illegal participation, unsportsmanlike conduct on the bench, or too many men on the field. At least, that would be my guess. I think Sideline Warnings are primarily after or before plays as opposed to live action.
yeah i know 12 men can be reviewed but sideline participation seems like one of those judgment things they couldn't review, but maybe they can.
excuse me while i kill colt mccoy. how the **** do you fumble that? either you make a play or go down and we take it to the half. what a f'ing screw up and now we turn 28-7 into probably 28-14.
Good stop, but geez.....could be a blowout, or even a shutout at this point.... ASU gets the ball first in the second half. That will be a big possession for both teams.
why does musberger think it was such a gamble? it was the smart, aggressive thing to do and the texas coaches actually did it and colt's stupidity made it blow up in their faces. it was like we were at our own 10 or something. we were at the 45 with a timeout and 1:20 to go. you don't just sit on it, or at least you don't if you're playing to win and stomp on someone's throat. we've basically turned a game we've dominated in 31-0 or 35-0 fashion and are up 28-10 b/c of an amazing sideline play/horrible replay usage and now a terrible fumble. and not to beat a dead horse, but when Chris touched it and made the play dead, why did they not get half the distance from where he touched it instead of where the play started?
so we come out and play good D and asu makes 2 tremendous catches to keep this drive going to a likely TD. even when we're good on D it doesn't work.
Holding them to 3 helps, though. I have a feeling that there is lots of scoring left in this game- let's hope most of it is for Texas!
Two huge fumbles that we've recovered as they are gathering momentum, and of course the fumble they recovered to get a free 3 before the half.
is that about the 4th time we've had a 3rd and 15+ tonight? b/t playing well we sure have managed to completely sabotage a good number drives with fumbles and huge negative plays. and almost none of them have been forced. why am i fairly sure we're going to lose this game? asu came in with the comeback kids storyline and us finding ways to limit our lead is setting up that situation perfectly. win or lose, we always let teams play to their strengths it seems.
apparently we traded in our fairly good punting abilities for an actual secondary in this game. that was like a ps2 deflection INT.
