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Hold up Nick........

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by ballgame, May 5, 2021.

  1. cmoak1982

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    Innocent or guilt would be the only way to be absolved.
    Settling means different things to different people. I personally think it means guilt, and you’re paying for it to go away. I know others think different.
    I wouldn’t want him back if he settles, I’d want him to get his value up and we trade him for the highest bidder.
     
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  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Because it was literally in the post I wrote that you agreed with
     
  3. ballgame

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    It's minute; potatoe, potato. I'm just saying is a two way street.....both sides are to blame and moving forward The Texans and Deshaun need to mend fences
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So, you admit you can say "we forgive you, BUT..."
     
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    Trading a player isn't holding something against them.

    It's just saying the team no longer wants that player to be the face of their franchise.
     
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  6. raining threes

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    There have already been many mistakes made. The reason Watson will eventually be traded. When you say blame on both sides, what do you mean. Why are you blaming the women? Or are you blaming the Texans org? Reality is Watson has nobody to blame but himself for putting himself in this position.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    Yep

    But dont let the door hit you in the azz on the way to wherever Caserio trades him.
     
  8. ballgame

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    Im not blaming the women, the Texans organization. Deshaun's situation is separate.
     
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  9. ballgame

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    Yes it is, why else would you trade a Top 3 QB. There is no other reason. Caserio said himself during his first news conference,....they do not want to trade him.

    Unless, they can not put the situation behind the.
     
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    Top 3 QB?
     
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    Do any of us really know this?
     
  12. cmoak1982

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    I have read of some charity things he’s done.
    It’s not on the level of Andre or JJ, that’s for sure.
    His play so far isn’t on their level either, in terms of prolonged top tier play.
    Yes he’s the best QB we’ve ever had, but that’s like being the smartest person on the short bus (forgive my insensitivity).
     
  13. ballgame

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    Yes, outside of Mahommes, Jackson and Wilson, what under 30yr old QB is better? Brady and Rogers are older and are closer to retirement. Who else is better?
     
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    Mahomes, Allen and Wilson.
    Lamar is not good.
    And I would throw Herbert in the list if he builds on the best rookie season ever.
     
  15. ballgame

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    And like I said originally, out of 68 QBs thats been drafted in the past 5yrs, not counting this draft, less than 20% are playing viable roles and I was being extremely generous on 20%
     
  16. cmoak1982

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    I know what statistic you’re quoting, and it was QBs up to 2016 from 2009.

    Viability is a lot longer list than 20%

    Rodgers
    Mahomes
    Wilson
    Brady
    Allen
    Tannehill
    Mayfield
    Herbert
    Lamar
    Burrow
    Ryan
    Dak
    Stafford
    Carr
    Roethlisberger

    Are all viable starters and teams can win with.
     
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    Once the women's names were released, only 5 were actually legal giving a paid massage. Becoming a therapist is irrelevant. All most all if not all of these massages were in hotels or homes.
     
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  18. cmoak1982

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    I’m going to go back over the cases, I don’t think you’re representing the cases accurately.
    Coercing esthetician’s (professionals) shouldn’t be allowed either.

    Also, a large portion of professionals therapists do home visits, specially for high profile clients.

    Nothing seems shady about the majority of these women, as far as not being lady of the night types.
     
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  19. cmoak1982

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    Also, I could be misremembering the cases. From what I remember, most were at least professionals in some capacity and not instagram thots.
     
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    Plus the fact that Gus like Rodgers will be around another 4-5 years.

    What ballgames post speaks to is a dearth of young capable QBs. If healthy give me Burrow and Lawrence too.
     
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