1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Historical Cornerstone of Your Baseball Franchise

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by giddyup, Sep 14, 2004.

Tags:
  1. Austin70

    Austin70 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2002
    Messages:
    3,531
    Likes Received:
    13
    A catcher, a secondbaseman, a centerfielder and a leftfielder all in one.............Craig Biggio, do I win?:D
     
  2. buddry

    buddry Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2003
    Messages:
    273
    Likes Received:
    0
    Easy answer, you go with Bonds.
     
  3. AntiSonic

    AntiSonic Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 1999
    Messages:
    8,318
    Likes Received:
    57
    Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez
     
  4. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 1999
    Messages:
    9,244
    Likes Received:
    4,750
    As long as your team doesn't have to play in the playoffs.
     
  5. whag00

    whag00 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2003
    Messages:
    5,615
    Likes Received:
    3,597
    David Weathers
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    36,425
    Likes Received:
    9,374
    What was Kit wearing?
     
  7. Cesar^Geronimo

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,530
    Likes Received:
    7
    I'd consider picking Johnny Bench.......
     
  8. dylan

    dylan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2000
    Messages:
    1,349
    Likes Received:
    18
    Stan Musial is also very worth consideration as perhaps the most underrated player in the history of MLB.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2001
    Messages:
    16,184
    Likes Received:
    2,830
    Babe Ruth
    Second choice: Ty Cobb
     
  10. giddyup

    giddyup Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Messages:
    20,466
    Likes Received:
    488
    This guy Alan Schwartz went with Mike Schmidt-- based on a combination of On-base Percentage and Slugging Average (plus Schmidt's fielding prowess).

    His main point was that Batting Average is a poor measurement because it doesn't account for extra-base hits, walks, etc.

    His second choice was Alex Rodriguez-- a close second who is a very productive hitter and an excellent defensive player as well. Were Rodriguez retired (like Schmidt is), he might have won out.
     
  11. synergy

    synergy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2002
    Messages:
    1,269
    Likes Received:
    0
    Whenever we played old Triple Play Baseball on Nintendo, mike schmidt would absolutely kill us. Thus we began to call him Mike ****..
     
  12. Puedlfor

    Puedlfor Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2000
    Messages:
    5,973
    Likes Received:
    21
    Give me Walter Johnson, Bob Gibson or Roger Clemens.

    Cy Young is overrated, he has about 120 wins against either minor-league competition, or from when the mound was at like 50 feet from home.
     
  13. moestavern19

    moestavern19 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1999
    Messages:
    39,003
    Likes Received:
    3,641
    Johan Santana
     
  14. fadeaway

    fadeaway Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    14,705
    Likes Received:
    1,193
    Without looking...

    I'd go with an incredible ace pitcher like Randy Johnson.

    My second choice would be an outstanding defensive center fielder who isn't too much of a liability with the bat (ie: Andruw Jones). Top defensive center fielders save a great deal of runs.
     
  15. m_cable

    m_cable Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2002
    Messages:
    9,455
    Likes Received:
    73
    Well if you're going that way, you might as well spring for Willie Mays. Best bat and glove combination ever.
     
  16. BobFinn*

    BobFinn* Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2000
    Messages:
    11,438
    Likes Received:
    6
    Babe Ruth...

    and then....

    Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Rogers Hornsby, Ty Cobb.

    Christy Mathewson, "Smokin" Joe Wood, Whitey Ford, Bob Feller, Dizzy Dean, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, Walter Johnson.
     
  17. SmeggySmeg

    SmeggySmeg Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 1999
    Messages:
    14,887
    Likes Received:
    123
    Shoeless Joe or Jackie Robinson
     
  18. fadeaway

    fadeaway Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2000
    Messages:
    14,705
    Likes Received:
    1,193
    Yeah, I'm not really too familiar with historical baseball stats before the '90s. I'm sure there have been much better defensive center fielders than Jones. Mays sounds good. :)
     
  19. Puedlfor

    Puedlfor Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2000
    Messages:
    5,973
    Likes Received:
    21
    Actually - when Jones plays hard, there aren't. He has some mental lapses, but when he's on, he's probably the second best defensive center fielder ever.
     
  20. bamaslammer

    bamaslammer Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Messages:
    3,853
    Likes Received:
    4
    Even though I'm from the hometown of Hammerin' Hank, Satchel Paige, Willie "Stretch" McCovey and Ozzie Smith (he later moved west), I've got to go with Warren Spahn, the Braves' great. This is from the Rob Neyer piece on ESPN.com:
    link
    ----------W-L Innings ERA ERA+
    Spahn 363-245 5,244 3.09 118
    He might not have been the overpowering guy that some were, but he did it game in and game out for 17 years. If that isn't the work of a franchise cornerstone, I don't know what is.
    And as for you guys starting a franchise with....heaven forbid.... a position player, you've got to be kidding me. Pitching and defense can be relied upon more often than offense, which waxes and wanes no matter who is in the batter's box.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now