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Historic North Korea/South Korea Meeting - Trump Peace Prize?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocketman1981, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Senator

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    While I agree, Clinton was more morally bankrupt and raping women as President. He lucked into the tech wave but could you call him someone competent and in-touch?

    Obama, despite being a nice relatable guy, made race relations worse and caused more tension than before his time in office. Faux symbolism with him not speaking out on key areas that Trump took advantage of. Just wanted to play it safe and pat himself on the back.

    Bush started an entire war in the wrong countries to stimulate the economy.

    I'm not sure there's been a competent President for a couple of decades, it's one of those things you have to accept with modern day politics. Competent people are more content doing the behind the scenes work , shying away from the pointless debacle. You'd like to see someone like the Chicago police chief ascend to Presidency one day, but a guy like that has no interest in the turd show.
     
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    im not a trump basher by any means, but why is a sitting president talking **** about our leaders to international leaders? weird
     
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    Really... everything you’ve seen and heard the past 4 years and this is what has you finally coming out to critique Trump?

    Look.. better late than never but still kind of an odd thing to be surprised about. I’m sure he will be rage tweeting the whole time he’s there waving communist flags and bowing down to the worlds worst murderous leader alive today other than maybe Putin.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    Easy to explain. trump was being ridiculed about his Vietnam history, and since he can't defend it, he has to find someone else to deflect to. Since trump has no moral compass, that's what he does. And its always questionable what he may say or do, since he lies, constantly. But I wouldn't doubt he would be so bizarrely insulting to a sitting U.S. Senator to foreign leaders since trump doesn't have a bone (or bonespur) of decency. After all, he does this on the eve of his trip to meet Asian leaders...

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    trump's war with the press continues... suspect he wishes he had the same relationship that his "friend" has in north korea...





     
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    Meanwhile, in other news (no, not that other news)...

     
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    Obama set race relations back simply by being black...

    And why the hell would you want the Chicago Police Chief?
     
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    OK, now the timing trump comments about Senator Blumenthal may make sense...

    Cohen to testify Trump dodged service in Vietnam
    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...odged-service-in-vietnam-he-said-there-was-no
     
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    Washington Post:

    It’s certainly unconventional. But is it working? Trump’s North Korea strategy wins over some experts.

    By Simon Denyer
    February 26 at 3:05 PM

    HANOI — When President Trump boasts of his wonderful relationship with North Korean supreme leader Kim Jong Un, or claims that there would have been war if he hadn’t been elected, many people cringe.

    But behind Trump’s boasting and bluster, a small band of experts in North Korean affairs see a strategy taking shape.

    Making Kim feel respected and secure, they say, offers a possible way to persuade him to give up — or at least scale back — his nuclear arsenal in return for economic and diplomatic rewards.

    “I am not a Trump supporter on 99 percent of what he does. But, strangely enough, his instincts have been right about North Korea,” said Joel Wit, a senior fellow at the Stimson Center think tank in Washington who was involved in past negotiations with the North Koreans while at the State Department.

    So far, Trump’s goals for his second summit with Kim have been a moving target.

    In advance of Wednesday’s initial talks, he has flattered and cajoled Kim, described the North as an “economic powerhouse” in waiting, and — to the surprise of many — said he was in “no rush” to find a deal that would dismantle Kim’s nuclear program.

    Even the definition of “denuclearization” hasn’t been hammered out between U.S. and North Korean negotiators — with Kim’s regime indicating that it could entail a significant rollback of U.S. defense arrangements with allies in the region.

    Still, supporters of Trump’s outreach, such as Wit, cite North Korea’s tension-easing suspension of nuclear and missile tests as an important step forward.

    Yet Wit’s view is a minority one in the polarized world of Washington. Trump’s Democratic foes — and some Republican hawks — see dangerous signs of a president without much grasp of foreign policy who could be played by the North Koreans. Even Trump’s own intelligence chief, Daniel Coats, testified last month that Kim isn’t likely to give up his nuclear weapons.

    But there are others, with deeper knowledge of North Korea than most, who say Trump’s approach is the best game in town at the moment. They say his willingness to rip up the foreign policy rule book on a gut instinct might — just might — be an advantage.

    They include Robert Carlin, a visiting scholar at Stanford University who was involved in U.S.-North Korea talks from 1992 to 2000, and Siegfried Hecker, a leading nuclear scientist who visited North Korea’s main Yongbyon nuclear complex in 2010.

    At Stanford, Hecker, Carlin and researcher Elliot Serbin have been charting the degree of risk on the Korean Peninsula since 1992, using indicators ranging from diplomacy to various aspects of North Korea’s nuclear and missile program.
    more at the link:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6abcbcd212a_story.html?utm_term=.f38f377a98de
     
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    Art of the Deal, and driving that hard bargain...

    US officials no longer demanding full accounting of North Korea nukes or missiles: report
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...nding-full-accounting-of-north-korea-nukes-or
     
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    Trump handling business despite the constant Democratic crapshow.
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    Well earned Mr. President, well earned...
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    No deal is still better than a bad deal
     
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    LOL...Obama,just by being black, made race relations worse? You can’t point to ONE THING he did to make them WORSE. The GOP and Conservatives are the ones who bred hate in their supporters.
     
  17. Mr.Scarface

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    Trump fails at negotiations...AGAIN!
     
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    As I expected here comes the liberals to celebrate.

    How does it feel like being a partisan hack?
     
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    How does it feel like being a partisan hack?
     
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    Anyhow, what narrative are we going to run with now? Did Trump give away too much? I heard he was going to give away too much.
     

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