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Hip Hop - The New N-Word

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Icehouse, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    who do you think buys most rap music? if you don't know, I question why you're always talking out of your arse
     
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    On a percentage basis, I'd say blacks. Overall, of course whites buy more, there are a lot more whites than blacks.

    Please post the data that you have, though - I'm curious. TIA
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    This makes it better? :eek:

    Having rap reinforce a certain image of black america to millions of white kids is NOT going to aid black americans...

    Heck, I think that proves texxx' point.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    how does that prove texxx's point, texxx's point is that hip hop holds black kids back, because they try to live up to the images. that's a hard sale when the majority of purchases aren't made by blacks.
     
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    Hip hop/rap glorify such virtues as selling drugs, pimping women, doing time in prison and superman-ing ho's. Yeah, that serves as a great role model for black youths. Who are they more likely to idolize, Akon or Ben Bannaker?


    AHHHH SKEET SKEET SKEET SKEET
     
  7. MR. MEOWGI

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    So what are black kids buying, polka music?
     
  8. MR. MEOWGI

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    I don't see anyone playing instruments.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    http://poplicks.com/2005/06/who-buys-hip-hop.html



    However, Bialik goes on to say that when MRI changed their data collecting methods - asking people to self-identify by race instead of having the collectors make that determination (what do they use? A color wheel? Genealogy charts?), the number of white consumers actually slipped to 60%. (What I'd like to know is where did that other 10-15% go? To African Americans? Latinos and Asians? Other?) (BTW, there's some follow-up questions in a later Journal column that pertains to this one.)


    you're welcome
     
  10. pgabriel

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    the people buying the cds
     
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Texxx said "blacks". Not just kids, but all of them.

    It's irrelevant. Maybe some black kids do ruin their lives by trying to live up to some stupid gangster image portrayed in rap music. I don't think it's a key statistic to stating that rap is inhibiting black progress.

    It's not solely up to black kids to hold back blacks - it's the opposite! Having white kids associate black people only with gangsters and hoes is probably a lot worse than black kids stupidly finding role models in rap music.
     
  12. pgabriel

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    maybe everyone who listen's to rap is actually smart enough to realize its just entertainment.

    I don't associate all italians with the mafia even though that's what damn near any movie about italian americans is about
     
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    had to school a 19 year old on the history of hip hop last week. She wanted to infuse hip hop into her project on asian cultures (some sort of dancing I think), and therefore she decided to add a lot of sexual elements to it. I asked her why and she said it was because hip hop is all about sex. I gave her a short lecure about how hip hop origins is actually about standing up for yourself and how it was originally a voice against the establishment. What some people think of hip hop today isn't hip hop, it's really hip pop.
     
  14. bigtexxx

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    uhhhh, did ya read the article? I asked what % of whites purchases the music, versus what % of blacks purchase the music.....with my point being that a large % of blacks purchase this music (i.e., 80% of blacks listen to it, versus only 20% of whites, but since whites are a larger group, there are more actual whites buying). A very important difference.
    looks like you pwn3d yourself, pgabs
     
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    I have a big problem with those movies, also, by the way
     
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    I think she is more right than you. Rap started out as nothing but party music for years until Grandmaster Flash.
     
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    Fair enough. But you are a lot smarter than a kid.

    It concerns me enough that I stopped listening to rap. I really enjoy the flow and the beats, but I don't want to support something that reinforces (lyrically) a host of bad stereotypes on both black and white youth.
     
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    well I caught on in the 80s. all I heard was Public Enemy, Queen Latifah, KRS-1 and folks like that. I'm sure there was also sex but the stuff was purely made for a niche of the population that felt disenfranchised.
     
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    I said the majority of people who purchase hip hop. 60% is a majority, last time I checked. Also, i would be willing to bet if you did a poll of teenage boys and broke down the racial demographics, they would be a lot more similar.
     
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