Its all just generalizations and reference points anyway. But here's my actual quote again: "Since East and West basically shot themselves in the foot then shot each other, it was a perfect time for the Dirty South with its more palatable, easy to absorb style like Master P and Juvenile." Its pretty simple - the popularized notion of Dirty South came about during and after BIG and 2Pacs deaths. Dirty South rappers who to emerged POST-BIG & 2Pac were Master P and Juvenile, amongst several artists. I dont automatically assume Goodie Mob stepped in the booth one day and right there on the spot magically conjured up a brand new term "Dirty South". It could have pre-existed the song in some capacity. But it surely didnt register in anyone's radar and certainly wasnt widespread industry standard. For sure the word "dirty" itself has been around the rap scene forever. Like the obscene "dirty rap" of the 2 Live Crew era. Or in his name, Old Dirty b*stard. Maybe UGK "Ridin Dirty" around the same time was coincidental. But still, I dont think "Dirty South" was used much at all before the Goodie Mob song. I personally cant recall any instances of anyone saying it in real life or in media recordings before then. Also personally, I myself never adopted the term "Dirty South". To me its always been just southern rap, and Dirty South is another sub-brand of that. But thats just me...
Splitting hairs here....yes they were They surely arent forgotten. It just wasnt my intention to credit the pioneers of southern rap in my comment. My comments are still valid in that I'm clearly talking about the timeline AFTER BIG and 2pac died, and white people purchasing hip hop had subtle but noticable influence. I remember plenty white girls with Silkk the Shocker songs on their profile pages. Cash Money and No Limit and bling blinging appealled to many demographics who didnt want to be all serious and introspective all the time. Which goes into what Samar is saying. Those types of listeners were saying NO - no I really dont care about the grimey, downtrodden dog-eat-dog street life sorry to say... And myself, I thought for a while there that even though some of the best hip hop came out of the "keep it real" 90s, that for a while there it was almost about being TOO minimalist. No humor, no fashion, no smiling, no dancing, no r&B, no women, no nothing. Just drudgery and battling. Guess what that leads to - no entertaining.
