What?? Terrible assessment. Have you even been watching? Are you sure you're not thinking about Joey Dorsey? Hill has something that a lot of young guys with raw talent don't- good instinct, a high basketball IQ, and a good work ethic/motor. He is the anti-Stromile Swift. He's made a tremendous impact in the short dose of playing time he's been given here. If he can learn how to be confident and hit the mid range jumper, and solidify his team defensive skills ... and maybe develop a couple of go-to moves ... the guy has potential to be a legitimate starting PF in this league. And considering we will still have Scola, Hill can contribute as a backup immediately so that we don't have to "devote" time to his development. It's not like we're asking him to be THE man next to Yao right away. One thing that really catches my eye is the length of his arms. He's tough to stop once he gets at all close to the basket, so if he can get teams to respect his jumper and learn even a little about how to maneuver in the paint, he could be a force around the basket. He's never going to have the arsenal that Landry developed, but all things considered I think he could end up being just as valuable to a winning team.
What the heck? Yeah, no kidding thats why there's a big IF. I didnt say it as an absolute "Landry is a top 4 efficient player. The IF in and of itself implies Landry didnt play enough minutes. PLUS, there are OTHER players around the LEAGUE that dont qualify for the league leaders, I know that. Really Landry's gone, so who cares what his numbers meant THEN, its Hill hype time NOW. You're missing the point probably intentionally. You're trying to make it like I'm extrapolating limited minutes performance to make it legit with the rest of the league. Wrong, NO. The league learder stats are (always) an indicator of what the standard is. By your logic Jordan Hill's numbers dont mean anything either. So this whole thread is meaningless. Everyone else already mentioned Yao and Tracy "bump" with Landry. We can keep going with that. - Landry got a bump up from playing with Yao and Tracy - stats irrelevant - Landry only played limited minutes - stats irrelevant - Landry mostly did it against other bench players - stats irrelevant - Landry is playing on mediocre teams to further inflate his numbers - stats irrelevant - How will Landry perform as GO-TO man on a GOOD team .... I mean, who cares. Jordan Hill is playing in some of the same scenarios Landry did to make a comparison.
People that are raking on Hill are not watching the games. At the very minimum, you would have to acknowledge he is absolutely no stiff. IMO, Jordan Hills offensive repetoire is gaining strength every game. They are running plays through him and for him and are being successful. Hills 3-5 foot hook is becoming consistent from the middle of the paint. He is a great rebounder. He is just scratching the surface.
it's quite simple. He was a top 10 pick because he can be a double double machine for a long time and he has great athleticism. If you can run, chew basketball and jump over 2 phonebooks at 6'10 then you are almost a lock for a top 10 pick.
Landry's age >> Hill's age Landry's experience >> Hill's experience Landry's upside << Hill's upside Bottom line: no one should take this as Landry bashing. We all loved the guy - he was a good player for the Rox. I think people are just trying to point out that every cloud has a silver lining. Not only did we get a pure shooting guard to replace Tmac but we got a good developing big to replace Landry Bottom line: Hill, Martin, & draft picks (and Jefferies expiring contract) >> Tmac and Landry going into next year
At least Hill can block shots. Landry is too short to do that. Hill is a better rebounder. I think Hill will be our best rebounder even compare to Yao.
In the last 6 games (after coming back from injury), he scored 10 ppg on .625 shooting, and grabbed 6 rpg in 21 mpg. It's not hard for people to project him to be an 18-10 type player in the future. Landry had similar production in his second year. And Hill is taller.
Landry played 433 of his 711 Minutes alongside Tmac, in those minutes he was more efficient by a few %pts and he got to the line with more frequency. But without Tmac his scoring rate was higher. Consider your suppose to lose some of your efficiency with more usage this makes sense and leads me to believe he was basically the same player with or without Mac. Alongside Yao (130 Minutes) his scoring rate was actually higher, his FG% was lower (58%) but his turnover rate was microscopic. Though they rarely saw the floor. I dont know what the #'s are with neither Yao or Tmac on the court, but my guess is its not a night and day difference. We shouldnt discredit Landry for doing what he does best, given how efficient he was its fair to assume Hill couldnt replicate those feats. He doesnt have the same IQ with regards to moving off the ball and finding open spaces in the defense. Though Tmac was a brilliant passer that year, he didnt MAKE Landry, not enough to transform him into a totally different player, one that couldnt compete vs Hill.
