You can't teach height, that's one thing hill has over landry. When hill guards his man, his able to alter the shot by just putting his arms up. I miss landry though.
As i've seen this thread develop, and like I mentioned a couple of pages ago ,how can you compare the two when Carl had played 42 games and Jordan has only played 17. When doing the comparison why not use Carl's first 17 games only as a reasonable comparison? Regardless, If you compare the two NOW per 36 minutes the stats are incredible close. Jordan is a 14 and 10 guy shooting 50% with 1 block per game. Landry is a 20 and 7 guy shooting 54% with about 1 block per game too. Landry is obviously the better offensive player but that is expected yet Jordan is not to bad while rebounding and defensive is already in Hill's favor. Jordan has only had a couple of months with the team and for him to already be putting up these kinds of numbers is outstanding and should only get better with a full offseason, summer league and training camp with the squad.
I miss Landry, too, but I am glad the rockets have Hill. Hill can play center or PF. Hill has potential to be a very good player and is already holding his own weight.
I like HIll, i think he is a better replacement for Landry than most of us thought The Rockets would get. But i also hope he get some "Dream Training". With his height and athletic ability, his block numbers need to be higher
Well, I have the feeling that they are not appreciated in the same manner as scoring, maybe I'm wrong. But I think they are even more important than scoring. If we talk about the current Landry (current scorer, current rebounder; not current scorer, rookie season rebounder) we have actually a good and efficient scorer (not great, nor solid go-to, he has shown tremendous trouble answering the double teams since they arrived), very bad rebounder (I would like to know the rebound-per-minute rate among NBA big men, but guaranteed that 5,8 in 31 minutes is not very good), and overall bad defender (he lost the the concentration and position, late weak side helps, zero inside presence and changed shots, no charges taken, below average 1on1 defense...). Anyway, good-very good player off the bench, I won't deny that. But not a very good starter in my opinion, he is going to severely limit his team in important aspects of the game. For granted that I prefer Hill for my team, thinking in future and contending goals, and of course that (off topic, I know it) being the scoring his current and almost unique talent, and having Yao for next season as a true elite low post scoring threat, Landry was never an untouchable player, as I often read here.
Hill Brings things that Fit better playing along Yao. He can Rebound above the rim He can change and or Block shots Those are needed on this team more than Landry's scoring. He was not a good rebounder because of his size.
I've tried comparing rookie season to rookie season. Landry has always been a very good per minute or per possession player on the offensive side. I think Landry fits as an average starter or great bench player right now looking at current production, but if he's a starter..he needs a great defensive force at center...such as Greg Oden when he's healthy. I don't think Landry was ever untouchable, but I do see him as undervalued most of his career (not so much this year as his defensive rebounding has really slipped from slightly below average to just plain bad and his ppg stands out more). On the double teams, Landry dealt with them poorly, but it does speak volumes that teams doubled teamed a guy that isn't a star. I like Hill a lot for his potential. He has the promise of being a good defender as he's aggressive and has the body for it, but he still makes mistakes. I think the Rockets can develop him into an average starter/great bench player. I don't ever expect him to be able to become a go to scorer, but can do well feeding off of others and be efficient. Basically, I see him as providing the opposite things that Landry did. As with Landry, I hope he remains a Rocket unless the Rockets can get someone better for him.
Hill is not a shotblocker at this time unless your name is Glen Davis. 25-35% of Hill's blocks have come against Davis in the two games against Boston. He rebounds pretty well with the possibility of becoming an elite rebounder with more development. I don't mean to sound negative to Hill as I like him. He needs time to develop.
He blocked the **** out of Perkins in crunch time. He's got the Length to do it. Landry doesn't. Of course he needs to develop.
Hill has more potential than Landry. Landry is a undersized PF who is quick, able to score more points, but Hill is just a nature PF, the one the rockets have been looking for a while.
Just a few thoughts.... If Hill was here the whole season who knows where he'd be at this point... Landry...what we got him to do this year is not what we were gonna need from him next year....simple as that...he was great for us, but we moved him for pieces that fit our plans better as to how PER is reguarded: i understand what PER tries to do....but when I watch games and look at the numbers it just doesnt make sense to me....scola takes the cake in nearly everything yet landry is still rated better because of 5% in ts%? GP mpg ts ast to usg orr drr rr per Carl Landry, SAC 76 30.5 .603 5.0 10.4 21.6 8.6 13.4 10.9 19.30 Luis Scola, HOU 77 32.3 .551 10.9 10.7 21.1 7.4 24.0 15.4 17.40
Hill has a nice jump shot, just needs more work to become real consistent from 15ft in.... Also needs to get on weight program upper and lower. Luv his leaping ability and willingness to dunk angry. The only dunker in the paint on the team (which, by the way is problem with this team). No big man that the other opponents fear.
In his rookie year, Landry 1st in offensive rebounding rate, 2nd in dunks/ per minute, 6th in ts%, 19th in PER ranking with a per=21.41. Landry was a beast before he added jump shooting. Landry >> Hill as a rookie.
Hill is the better player now and has more potential. But what do you expect? Hill was drafted 8th and Landry was drafted 31st.
I honestly don't understand all of the hopeful wishes and fascination with Hill. The guy was a top 10 pick who's shown he's anything but a top ten draft pick. I see all of the usual excuses and rationalizations being made for him and while some of them have merit (D'Antoni didn't like his hair), the bottom line is that they went and got (yet) another project player who on most nights looks like he needs someone to give him a copy of John Wooten's book on how to play basketball. To me the issue isn't that he's raw and needs to develop (code for he can't play) but rather one of time. Specifically, how much time are folks willing to devote on his development especially considering that the clock is ticking on Yao.
