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Hillary to concede tomorrow night?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. A_3PO

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    Is anyone watching CNN? I just tuned in and can't believe it's SATURDAY AT 10:00 AM in Houston and they have staked out her home waiting for her to leave and there is huge number of people waiting for her at the rally.

    My goodness! This sure seems over the top. But when I think about it, her weird speech on Tuesday set a lot of things in motion that lead to today's buildup. It just seems weird all of this anticipation is happening on a Saturday morning instead of a Tuesday evening.

    I was looking forward to hearing what she would say but this CNN coverage has me hyped up. This could end up being the speech of Hillary's life (at least until the convention).
     
  2. Major

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    Wow. What time is the actual event supposed to be?
     
  3. A_3PO

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    11:00AM Houston time.

    Seriously, I slept late this morning and wanted to watch last night's Battlestar Galactica, which I recorded. After turning on CNN, I can't stop watching. It feels like an election night, like TX/OH, IN/NC for example.
     
  4. GuerillaBlack

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    This is getting ridiculous. She is 45 minutes late.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    Finally the show gets started.
     
  6. real_egal

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    Interesting. I don't know how reliable such "poll" is, and how the survey was conducted. If a Hillary supporter says that he/she would prefer McCain over Obama if she's not the nominee, does that poll make him/her a pro-McCain voter? Or there are really 15% voters openly admitting to vote for Hillary to screw up the Dem primaries? Very doubtful to me.

    Like I said in another post, some seem to be very "worried" about Clinton's future political career. I said, EVEN 8 MILLIONS OUT OF THOSE 18 MILLIONS votes she got was due to Limbaugh effect, she still got support from 10 million Americans, at least. She's been doing very well in political field, and she will continue to do so, EVEN THOUGH she's not acting like a saint as some blaming her.

    Another interesting fact is, when Obama got votes from Republicans and Independents, he's a uniter. When Clinton got votes from same group, those were to mess up the great Democratic party.

    I expect her speech to be positive, and she'll brag about her support again and show appreciation to them. Then, she will pay the lip service that everyone should support Dem candidate, although she has difference with Obama. She will say that Obama is a formidable candidate. But, she will still promote her as the best VP candidate, subtly. I guess you won't like it. But, that's life.

    You talked much about business world in this thread as well. Hopefully, you as a business man can someday strike a big deal, to get everything from your opponent, but still force your counterpart to sing praise to you and openly admit that losing everything to you is in the best interest of him/her.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    Home run. Amazing speech. Way to go, Hillary.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Great speech......and she has the countries full attention....

    18 million cracks in the glass ceiling - that was awesome.

    DD
     
  9. GuerillaBlack

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    I liked the 18 million cracks in the ceiling thing. That was good.
     
  10. kokopuffs

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    i'm hoping for a transcript or recording
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Very good speech. I thought it fell a little flat as an endorsement (maybe the crowd reaction had something to do with that). As a text, you can take excerpts of her speech and say it was a hearty, enthusiastic endorsement. But watching and listening to it, I don't know. It was more about her and what she did than anything else.

    Now, I suppose, the anticipation will be on when they make their first joint appearance.

    Time for the general election to start.
     
  12. Major

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    I think the speech fits what The Cat was talking about during the Tuesday speech. Yes, it was in many ways about her and to her supporters - but that's to be expected for a candidate that did that well. The key was that she really merged it with the party and unity and the endorsement. Addressing her successes gets the attention of and excites her supporters, and then she used that to push Obama, which is exactly how you want to do it.

    I thought it was an extremely well done speech. Probably the best I've seen from her - not for the Obama stuff, but because she came across as very human and very honest.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    It was a quality speech and, I agree, the best I've seen her give.

    Time for BSG.
     
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    That was terrific. There were certainly a few assholes in the crowd, but aside from that, it went over very well. A_3, the problem Clinton had going into this is that her supporters likely wouldn't accept an overly flowery speech that focused almost exclusively on Obama and not at all on what she accomplished. This was a room of partisan supporters, not a joint appearance. She had the delicate task of tiptoeing the line between praising them and her own campaign while also throwing full support toward Obama, and I thought she did as well as she could have. Will be some very nice quotes for the Sunday papers nationwide.
     
  15. GuerillaBlack

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    Those partial boos in the crowd was sad to hear.
     
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    I can accept that.
     
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    :D I'm so proud of her! The speech was great, and even better, she seemed so genuine. Can't wait to see her campaigning for Obama. I'm also excited to see where she goes next in her own political career.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I hate to say it but I was out until 5AM last night and missed the speech. The highlights I caught on CNN.com looked pretty good and it sounds like this was exactly the kind of speech that was needed to cap off her campaign and move onto the general. I hope this puts to rest some of the venom directed at Clinton.
     
  19. The Cat

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    Definitely. But, they were clearly in the minority, and Clinton had the perfect spin for them. (This is a case where being overly flowery would have been a mistake.) Regardless of what you think, looking back and wondering "what if" doesn't accomplish anything. From here on out, it's Obama and McCain -- and if you support Clinton on the issues, the choice couldn't be more clear cut.

    However, the boos also symbolize something a few of us have been saying for months, and that's that it won't be as simple as giving the Clinton voters a couple of weeks to lick their wounds before they'll come around. This campaign was close and ran deep, and Clinton and Obama do have much more work to do than the typical post-primary wrap. Is that to say she should be VP? Not necessarily, though it might help. But the important thing is that it's not all Obama's job -- it's Clinton's job, too, and she took a huge step toward doing that today. As long as she keeps doing it for an extended time (remember, we have five months), I think it'll be OK. Very proud of her today.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    Me too, The Cat. I even had second thoughts about VP during her excellent speech. That was bad ass.

    Now I'm looking forward to seeing them campaign together, to hopefully seeing Bill campaign on Obama's behalf (as difficult as I imagine it would be for him to turn that corner) and to very important and meaningful work from all three Clintons, for years to come, on behalf of the issues they've fought for for so many years already. I especially look forward to hearing more from Chelsea. I've always been fond of her but her official public debut this year was very impressive.
     

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