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Hillary in 2012?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SacTown, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. SacTown

    SacTown Member

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    Is this possible?

    They've started again -- the Hillary questions.

    Will the once-vanquished first lady, who's been the solid voice of administration foreign policy since Day One, challenge White House incumbent Barack Obama for the Democrats' presidential nomination a year from now in Charlotte, N.C.?

    Of course, she and everyone will say no, no, no -- until the day they might say, well, actually, yes.

    Or until the day the ex-state senator takes Joe Biden off the 2012 ticket and replaces the aging gaffemeister with her because Obama is in so much trouble and the party's big-money people from New York and California insist that the Harvard guy needs a woman's help. And they don't mean Oprah.

    The Hillary question came up again Monday at the White House briefing. Jay Carney, with his Where's Waldo glasses, tried unsuccessfully to joke it off. Similar queries will ...

    ... return in coming weeks. It's been a little over a month now since grumpy old Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont suggested that Obama needed a challenger in the primaries because he's gone way too far right. Which is news to those on the right seeking to fire the guy.
    A challenge to Obama seems pretty far-fetched today, with his job approval hovering around 39%. Hard to imagine the loyal secretary of State, who'll turn 64 in October, abruptly resigning to mount a challenge to her current boss and onetime bitter rival ("Shame on you, Barack Obama!").

    And she swears -- well, actually, she just proclaims -- that she'll never seek elective office again.

    But, say, winter nears and the Republicans are dominating the political news with Mitt Romney and Rick Perry duking it out.

    And August's 39% job-approval rating for the president has melted into 33% or 32%. And the economy shows no real signs of improving despite another couple of empty Obama jobs speeches calling for more spending on infrastructure because the first $787 billion didn't work.

    Hillary is a sensitive subject around BO. Remember, she walloped him in Pennsylvania and Ohio (Texas too), states the 2012 ticket is going to need to win without Florida.

    And remember in September 2008, just before the stock market collapse doomed John McCain's bid, when Joe Biden was doing that town hall in his shirtsleeves, walking around and talking, talking? And he suggested candidly that Hillary would have been a better VP choice.

    Clamp. Joe was muzzled tighter than Sarah Palin after the Katie Couric interview. Because everyone knew Joe spoke the truth, and Harvard guys don't like the truth if it contradicts their version.

    So, here's the full Monday briefing exchange. Bookmark this to compare it to all the ones to come:

    Q: Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said -- and this is a quote -- "One of the reasons the president has moved so far to the right is there is no primary opposition to him." And my question: Why is the president certain that Hillary won't run against him? (Laughter.)

    MR. CARNEY: You win the award for originality today.

    Q: Thank you very much.

    MR. CARNEY: The president is focused not on any election -- he's focused right now on doing his job to grow the economy, create jobs, ensure that Americans who are in the path of this hurricane are taken care of. That's what he's focused on.

    Q: I understand. You're running away from this question. I mean, can you guarantee that -- are you sure that --

    MR. CARNEY: You'd have to ask --

    Q: -- Hillary is not going to run?

    MR. CARNEY: You'd have to ask her. We're fairly confident --

    Q: That she won't?

    MR. CARNEY: -- that we need to focus on the task at hand.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/hillary-clinton-obama.html
     
  2. SunsRocketsfan

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    not going to happen... she'd have to wait till 2016
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Free travel around the world.
    No legislative interaction.
    No responsibilty for the deficit or unemployment.
    No responsibility for wars, cultural or miltary.

    Six-figure salary, pension and a rolodex of foreign leaders big enough to guarantee you any executive position you want.
     
  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    She should have been the President right now, but a bunch of idealistic youngsters chose the cool candidate instead.
     
  5. ILoveTheRockets

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    Hilary already said she wasn't running for office in 2012.

    Hilary 2016 for sure though!!!!!

    she has my vote in my back pocket already
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    Are you sure she has ENOUGH of the MANUEL LIBOR WORK ETHNIC?
     
  7. A_3PO

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    The only thing she might change in 2012 is running as V.P. and that is very doubtful IMO.
     
  8. mc mark

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    Love Hillary but no, Russ Feingold is the next progressive standard bearer.
     
  9. Batman Jones

    Batman Jones Contributing Member

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    I wish.

    But I would also totally love it if Hillary joined the Obama ticket. She would make a great candidate for VP.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    I must admit - I wish Hillary had been president over Obama.
     
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  11. SunsRocketsfan

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    Huh? I didn't know you could run for VP. Doesn't the president choose his VP?
     
  12. A_3PO

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    The nominee chooses his VP candidate and they run as one ticket.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    I'm not seeing it. Democratic Party wouldn't like it. She won't betray the party. I could see her pushing Biden out, at most.
     
  14. SunsRocketsfan

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    yea exactly.. so how could hillary run for VP? She would have to be NOMINATED not RUN.
     
  15. Batman Jones

    Batman Jones Contributing Member

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    Biden could be Secretary of State which was what he wanted in the first place.
     
  16. Major

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    He didn't say run FOR VP. He said "run as VP". If you're the VP nominee, you then run for election...
     

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