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Hillary Has a Howard Dean Moment -- Drops Racial Bomb

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. mc mark

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    Yep! That sounds about right.
     
  2. vlaurelio

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    and that's also after admitting that he for once agrees with me?

    how can you own someone who you agree with? isn't that self ownership?
     
  3. Drewdog

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    Really? You mean it will be that easy for Republican Campaign Donors to write a horrid book filled with nothing but lies about a potential presidential candidate? I guess we should be scared.....
     
  4. reggietodd

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    Whether you are a dem or a rep.

    How can anybody defend Hilary Clinton in this situation? She gave that speech with only ONE thing in mind. Herself.
     
  5. Saint Louis

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    If the Dems nominate Hillary, God help us all. If given the choice between the Republican candidate and Hillary; I'll be going with option C Libertarian.

    Hillary is nothing more then Republican Lite.
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    Oh, and I wouldn't hit it either. Yuk!
     
  7. reggietodd

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    Yuk. Hillary has more cottage cheese on here legs than the Kroger deli.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    isn't that RNC's response?

    its not like everyone is up in arms with her remarks.. and the bigger remark is this admin is the worst in history.. don't know why y'all ignore to point that out.. you probably agree..
     
  9. reggietodd

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    He is definitely one of the worst, I agree, but I also think that goes without saying.
     
  10. ROXRAN

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    The racial bombastic by Hillary is a line up in good recent hits. Keep up the good work neo-demos...
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    Perhaps not, but it is an ill remark that loses more than it gains.
     
  12. halfbreed

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    I have yet to find a Democrat that will actually back up the "plantation" portion of the statement and they simply give her a free pass and jump to the Bush is the worst ever part.

    Guys, don't be so blinded by hatred for Bush or buy into the new "best/worst ever" label that people have to put on anything. George Bush isn't the worst or the best president we've ever had. We won't even know his legacy until well after he's out of office. Remember shortly after his death Kennedy rated as one of the top 5 presidents of all time. Most historians now rank him in the middle of the pack.

    And I still find it apalling that anyone buys the "plantation" remark.

    A little off topic, but why do most blacks in America give the Democratic party the benefit of the doubt without demanding results? I mean black leaders have to know that the GOP would kill to get some of their vote. Wouldn't the smart thing to do be to play both parties off of one another and really try to create some progress as opposed to simply throwing all of your support behind one party without demanding results? It just makes no sense to me. :confused:

    We all know that one of the only reasons Clinton got off with this is because she's a Democrat (the fact that Bill is her husband doesn't hurt either but that's pretty much the same reason). By giving her a pass isn't that just showing to the Democratic party that black leaders will serve the party instead of the party serving them? It seems as though the leaders of the black community could actually do a lot for black people if they really wanted to but many seem more interested in staying in the limelight (a problem not limited to this community, I know).
     
  13. mc mark

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    [​IMG]

    Well...it kinda does look like a plantation.

    :D
     
  14. El_Conquistador

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    Actually, in a move that brings joy to my heart, Barack Obama defended the statement today!!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6/01/18/AR2006011800938.html?nav=rss_politics

    What a stupid, ridiculous, unnecessary move by Obama. Why insert himself into this mess? Maybe he's positioning himself to run on Hildebeast's ticket as VP. Maybe she put him up to it. Regardless, the Democrats' constant pimping of slavery and Jim Crow era injustices in an effort to win black votes is beyond repulsive. It's amazing that black voters don't see through it.
     
  15. vlaurelio

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    this is what Obama said

    yes that was indeed real "stupid, ridiculous, and unnecessary" of him to say that

    but this is funny though

    here's another "stupid, ridiculous, and unnecessary" move by Obama
     
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    Of course Obama can fully relate to the African American of the deep south, being from Illinois with all of it's tobacco and cotton industry.

    I would venture a guess that the further north you go, the less horrible imagery the word "plantation" conjures.

    Just a guess.

    I do know several people in Texas, of many skin colors, and both major parties, that feel she just shot herself in the foot as a POTUS candidate.

    It is also very clear that her tact is from a northern viewpoint now that she is in the big NY position... but that's what politicians do, they play to their constituents.

    I'm just thankful that large states in the south wil have a say in the election process.
     
  17. Ubiquitin

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    Does the southern strategy mean nothing?
     
  18. Saint Louis

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    Far better for Hillary to shoot herself in the foot now, so that the Democratic party doesn't waste another presidential election.
     
  19. vwiggin

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    That was a good post, rimrocker.

    Hillary's statement was stupid. She was pandering to a specific segment of her base and her statements are obviously more divisive than they are helpful.

    God I hope we don't run Hillary as our presidential candidate.
     
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    I probably don't have that sensitivity because of my background. I would like to apologize in advance. However, my question is, we know that some republicans are offended, or feel that they have to act offended. ARe the liberals really offended by her remark? Or are those liberals trying so hard to figure out what potential voters might think, just as when they dumped Dean? I mean, are they really offended, or they are more worried that others might be offended?

    Now the real question is, are African Americans really offended? Or only those Coacasian republican leaders acted offended? If the majority of the African American communities are not offended at all, what's the big deal then, except everything she said is used by the opposition against her?
     
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