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Hillary Clinton 2016: Stronger Together

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JeffB, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    Most people think both sides should communicate and compromise so that all perspectives and factored in.

    We're in a low cycle where obstruction happens in both parties and no one wants to be seen with the other. It seems like no one wants to repeat the 70s but as even seen for the last two years, maybe parties have to accept burning up and reinventing themselves from time to time
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I've heard this argument from conservatives but I've also heard conservatives claim that the Democrats and Federal government have been favoring minorities through things like Affirmative Action, school busing and job set asides.

    Anyway what would Trump and conservatives do that would help the struggles of black people?
     
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    Civil Rights Act, voting laws, tax reform, health care, BLACK PRESIDENT. . . .
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    I suppose you don't know what 'since the 60's' means, but anyways.

    What does tax reform and healthcare have to do with this? I didnt realize black people were being repressed through these means. I learned something new today.

    And seriously? The federal government elected a black president? Are you suggesting Obama was elected simply because of his color? What a sad day we live in when a black man can't get elected on his own merit and is instead elected to be a token. (your words, not mine)
     
  5. sirbaihu

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    WTF: you're high on the "your words, not mine" part.

    Oh, you've gone from "improve the struggles of black people" to "black people being repressed." They're not the same thing.

    No, you didn't learn anything new today. You are confused.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    Explain to me what Obama being elected has to do with the federal government helping black people?
     
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    Deliver what? The war on drugs and the GOP led "tough on crime" has done the most damage to the black community since the 60s. Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr dramatically increased the police state which devastated a generation of black men/fathers.
     
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    Please elaborate.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    the fact you think cracking down on crime is what hurts the black community the most is pretty damn racist. You basically see the whole black community as a bunch of criminals?
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Bahahaha. Fantastic spin. There's no debate that the war on drugs has disportionally affected the black community. There's no debate the war on drugs is a colossal failure.
     
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    Has it been the "War on Drugs" that did this...or just drugs and crime?
     
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    The War on Drugs, no about.
     
  13. tallanvor

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    why is that? you might want to slow down with racism.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    You may want to slow down in putting words in my mouth, it'll only make you look foolish.
     
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    Again, please elaborate if its not too much trouble.
     
  16. dmoneybangbang

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    The Conservative leaning Forbes....
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-war-on-minorities-and-the-poor/#32810ad734b6

    http://www.drugpolicy.org/race-and-drug-war

    Conservative Rand Paul
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/24/rand-paul-mar1juana-arrests-column/2452259/

    A Stanford research piece
    https://web.stanford.edu/class/e297c/poverty_prejudice/paradox/hduke.html

    If you have many questions let me know!
     
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    No questions. I've read articles like this before. I happen to agree with much of it. I was simply hoping to get your personal viewpoint.

    Its my personal opinion that drugs and crime are much more damaging to these communities than any war on drugs however. And while minority communities have no doubt been impacted negatively by the war on drugs it is simply a byproduct of the scourge of drugs and crime within these communities.

    In other words, I'm saying the "War on Drugs" wouldn't exist if drugs and crime in the community existed first. What changes do you propose that lessens the impact on minority communities that also would be effective in reducing crime and drug use?
     
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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...gs-tool-target-black-people-article-1.2573832

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748.html

    https://www.rt.com/usa/usa-cia-drugs-poor-americas/
     
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    My opinion is that War on Drugs has unnecessarily affected the black community more adversely than whites. Even poor whites get off more easily than their poor black counterpart which is corroborated by the articles.

    Treating drug use as a public health issue, not law enforcement issue. We've tried the law enforcement way and it's failed miserably.
     
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    A fly lands on Hillary's face again. I guess they can really smell the bullshit.
     
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