Hillary Calls for Bush to Boycott Olympic Opening Ceremonies?

I agree with this - these are freaking games, come on. Protesters have a right to express themselves in this country, and more power to them, but I think our leaders should be above that, especially considering any kind of "boycott" would just bring resentment and set us back even further.

 

Does it matter if some head of states don't come to the opening ceremony? I wouldn't care. And if China suppress domestic opinion to get them in the stands, I will be critical of that.

It's just a freaking opening ceremony, let those who want to cerebrate the Olympic spirits cerebrate. Who cares if whoever don't want to attend.

 

It's not about someone just not going...but a government choosing to "boycott" something is different than Bush just being busy clearing brush.

 

I wouldn't care either. That's quite a naive way of boycott anyway. It shouldn't affect the spirit of ceremony. Pull your athletes if you really want to boycott. As to sending the message, you can send the same message through bizzilion of ways more effective than doing that. Boycotting the opening is just a show for domestic politics. The opening is not set up for those political maneuvering.

 

Last night, CNN invited a political analyst (or scholar) to discuss about this. While Campbell was eagerly waiting for some serious China-bashing, she was very surprised and almost speechless, when the guy gave some quite insightful opinions. Nothing groundbreaking, just a little common sense which has been lost. First, he pointed out that it was only a political move by Clinton, and she wouldn't even follow her own advice if she became the president. Second, he pointed out that Obama was quite smart to stay out of it. Third, the boycotting opening ceremony doesn't achieve anything except for more resentment. One thing he said was, no matter what Chinese people's positions are for everything else Chinese government does, this time, the government is actually REFLECTING the support of at least 80-90% of their people. Campbell sat there kind of like dumbfounded. He went on to explain why you shouldn't do something spoil others' coming out party, to act/be considered a snob.

Honestly, I don't care whether world "leaders" participated, or athletes from some countries participated. But to inject resentment and intentionally piss off Chinese people, is only a free PR move for Chinese government, and ignition for nationalism.

If Dems can only pose from the high horses, they can't get anything meaningful done. That's why I always think Bill Clinton was a pretty good president, and probably that's why he was the only Dem president in the last 20 years.

 

Those anti-China talks are nothing new and indicating nothing about China.
Or it says that China must be doing very well or we don't see some much hate from China haters, the western countries.

Do you think China should care or be scared of the boycotts, banners or slogans from western countries?

Chinese people had faced enough REAL knives, bombs and bullets from the western world. they did not fold and are developing into a real power.

Would China give up Tibet, ~1/6 of their land, to their biggest friend, Dalai lama? Because they want Olympics that much?

 

Quick...tell me something bad about Chinese government. Three things you're critical of with relation to the Chinese government.

 

I have a unilateral offering here:

The most recent gripe I have is that they allow seasoned offering of stocks WITHOUT having to disclose detailed project information, and expect the market to work. That's bum.

 

LOL@ the "China doesn't care if it's embarrassed" talk. Maybe innoculated Chinese americans don't care, but the PRC is so obsessed with face-saving that that's the opposite of what is true, especially Uncle Hu who's a notorious stickler for protocol and takes offense at the most minor perceived slights.

 

gees, are you just so naive to think that we don't think there are things wrong? my top three, environment, social/economic equality, and lack of military technology. those are top 3 things my government should work on. and, yes they are working on those. unlike your government, which still doesn't listen to people's voice.

 

where did you read "China doesn't care if it's embarrassed", LOL.
People were just talking about retribution etc.

 

No...I was certain there was SOMETHING. It's just refreshing to hear it. I find Americans to be very self-critical. I think that's a good thing. We scrutinize the hell out of our government in the US. I don't hear that much from people talking on behalf of China.

I love the little jab at the end, though. Stay classy.

 

if you think only americans are very self-critical then you haven't seen chinese at all. a lot chinese are much more self-critical about every detail due to the fact they want improvement. the difference is that, most of us don't go around telling people. instead, we work on the problems. talk is cheap.

 

I didn't say only americans are self-critical. I said I haven't seen much of it from those who represent China in these message boards.

Clearly you think China is superior to the U.S. Great. But that chip on your shoulder is causing you to slouch a bit.

 

you are missing the point. i said, we don't go around telling people about it. in fact, most of us think US is in a much better situation right now. but we are chinese, so we are not going around telling people about it. just keep our mouth shut and keep working hard to catch up. anyone in their right mind knows that US is in a better situation in china right now. but then again, US haven't gon through so many destructive wars.

 

Principled neutrality.

 

and what happens on the message board are the reactions to some of the trolls and recent events. it has nothing to do with what our real feelings are.

 

I've just skimmed this thread, but has anyone noted this irony?