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High percentage landing Paul Milsap to the Rockets according to ESPN

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by KALIKULI, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

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    Never should have gotten on that scooter years ago, Monta lol
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I don't understand why I keep hearing this repeated. Who is Draymond Green lighting up exactly? Love averaged 16 and 11 and 38% shooting from the field and 38% from 3pt range. Green put up 11 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists on 34% from the field and 28% from 3pt range.

    I'll take the guy who put up 16 and 11 and 38% from deep and let MDA tutor Lue on how to get guys more open with Chris Paul and James Harden running the offense.
     
  3. Nimo

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    13 mil a year for a 34 year old Center? Ouch. They really need some youth in the front court.
     
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  4. Aruba77

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    improve the team without giving up Capela or Gordon.
     
  5. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    missing on millsap puts the pressure on to add melo or love. no other pieces out there to make a big 3.
     
  6. Hakeemtheking

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    The absurd, insane money that some of these players are getting will make it much harder to build a super team. Put yourself in some of these players' shoes, and you may make the same choice.

    I love Millsap, but $30M per is just crazy, same for Lowry, etc...

    Bottomline, we have to round up the roster the best we can because if it will hard to get that 3rd superstar / star.
     
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  7. pippendagimp

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    other team forums were probably posting the same about us last summer w/ ryno :D
     
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  8. larsv8

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    Time to go get Gallo
     
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    I feel the same way. But we're about to pay $25 mil to a 33 year old point guard, and we plan on giving him more for longer if he accepts.

    Clint is developing well. He seems to get shaken easily when Harden would bark at him. Now he's going to get that from Chris Paul, too. Chandler is a vet. He's played with Chris Paul before. He's also played in Team USA, which is something Morey mentioned in his press conference after acquiring CP3.

    As far as youth in the front court, it does look bleak IMO. Onuaku and Qi are the next ones in the pipeline. Yikes.
     
  10. DVauthrin

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    Cleveland thought they could outscore the Warriors. It didn't work. The Warriors scored at ease in the finals not only because of their offensive talent, but because Kyrie and Kevin Love are awful defenders and were often on the court together. Harden and Love would be just as bad.

    Also, the reason it matters is Draymond or Iguodala aren't going let Love off the hook and settle for threes when he's guarding then. They will drive and attack the basket, opening up looks for KD, Curry and Thompson when others have to help.
     
  11. UTAllTheWay

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    He also said "Not Parsons."

    So Kid dynamite = Tyson
    Not Parsons = Chandler

    Tyson Chandler is the undercover Phoenix guy.

    Regardless, everything the Rockets do from this point forward is going to be completely under the radar.

    If we hear of something happening from a major report (like the Shumpert deal), it will be because the Rockets want somebody to hear it.

    I suspect the rest of their signings and trades will happen when we least expect it.
     
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  12. UTAllTheWay

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    Cleveland did not think they could outscore the Warriors... That's the whole reason ESPN wouldn't shut up about LeBron asking for another playmaker.
     
  13. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Well Cleveland was stupid. No one is advocating we get Love AND repeat the strategy. That's Lue's problem. Also, aside from Love and Harden, we would have some combination of Chris Paul, Trevor Ariza, PJ Tucker and Clint Capela on the floor. It's not reasonable to compare that to Lebron (who was useless defensively in the finals), JR Smith, Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert. We were a better defensive team than the Cavs even when we started Ryan Anderson and James Harden. We are simply a smarter team.

    If we are in the WCF and we are facing Draymond and Iguodala isolations, I promise you we are not losing that game. Especially not if the end result is Draymond's 11/10/5 on 30% shooting. Draymond did not punish the Cavs more than he did other teams. On average, he was worse against the Cavs than the rest of the league. He was significantly worse against the Cavs than all other playoff opponents. In fact, you could say it was his worst series ever.

    I don't know where this myth came from that Love was destroyed by Green, but Draymond had a poor showing in the Finals. His slowed down Love when he guarded him, but much of the value Green brought had nothing to do with Love and everything to do with his intangibles and team play.

    I said it in a post earlier, winning makes everyone look better than they are. I will take a guy who can hit 16/11 on 38% from 3 against the defensive player of the year. If the Warriors are busy iso'ing Iggy/Green and trying to keep Love at 38% shooting, then we are in a good place. Sucks the Cavs didn't have MDA to develop a potent offense, or Bzdelik to be slightly less garbage at defense, but we have that.
     
  14. DVauthrin

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    They didn't have the personnel to outscore Golden State, but that's the approach they took. They did nothing to slow the pace down, instead trying to run and gun with them.
     
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    https://www.fantasypros.com/nba/news/122328/tyson-chandler-could-be-moved-via-trade.php

    Seems like exactly what Codman said.
     
  16. UTAllTheWay

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    You're right, they did try that strategy and it was a terrible decision because that wasn't who they were. Just like when the Spurs tried to run and gun against us, we ran them into the ground.

    It doesn't mean you CAN'T beat GSW that way.
     
  17. DVauthrin

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    Tristan Thompson may not block shots like Capela, but he's a comparable defender. And Golden State is primarily a jump shooting team, so Capela's shot blocking isn't as valuable as it is against other teams.
    LeBron is elite, just like CP3. Ariza and Tucker are better than Shumpert and Smith, that is definitely true.

    But to play Love and Harden together against Golden State you have to bench Capela and play Love as a 5. Iguodala is the only perimeter player you want Harden guarding, Ariza and CP3 guard KD and Curry, Love has to guard Green and Tucker guards Klay.

    Point is, it's just really difficult to have two defensive liabilities in your lineup and reasonably expect to beat Golden State. They have too many offensive weapons and share the ball too well.
     
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  18. goldoil

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    Heavens, how many front court players are the Rockets going to look at?

    They still haven't gotten anybody.

    They've looked at half of the PFs and Cs in the league without signing anyone.
     
  19. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Lebron was FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from an elite defender in the playoffs. FAAARRR!!!!!!!! We have better defensive pieces now without question. And don't equate Paul with Lebron. Please look up Paul's career. Paul is several times over defensive monster.

    Why would we have to bench Capela? Why would we let them dictate our rotation?

    We're going to go Love/Ariza/Harden/Gordon/CP3. Let's see them guard it.

    It's not difficult to have two defensive liabilities in your lineup. The Cavaliers won a championship starting Irving and Love. Warriors have Curry and are the #2 defensive team in the league. Spurs have Lamarcus and Tony Parker and they were the #1 defensive team in the league.

    Anyways, I get your point. Just have to disagree with you sir. Sounds like you are thinking no one can possibly come up with a better plan than the Cavs, or that no one can top the impact of Love/Lebron/Kyrie.
     
  20. roslolian

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    How about 28% in the playoffs you don't care about that?

    Anderson sucks balls, get over it!
     
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