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All part of the cosmic unconscienceness

 

Here's Jesus explanation from the Gospel of John
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

 

the Christian Scriptures are clear to me, I just wonder if those who read John barely make it into heaven?

I guess barely making it to heaven is better than barely making it into hell.

thanks, good stuff

 

I think "believing" means trying to live your life the way Jesus lived his. You believe in Jesus as the way, his way. Salvation comes through actual practiced living and understanding, not through believing in an idea.

 

Jesus was a man of Peace, Muhommed was not.

DD

 

Yeah, a heck of a lot funnier than this...



Mr. Moore looks like quite the wild and hip teenager in that Mervyn's back-to-school gear.

 

i think you're absolutely, postively on to something here. it's more than just mental assent...i agree with that. it's a changed heart. it's not merely saying, "i'm gonna stop doing this and start doing that." it's changing the very heart that causes us to behave differently. the evidence of salvation is this changed heart. and that's not merely for salvation in the ever-after...but in the here-and-now, as well.

in the Old Testament, the prophet Jeremiah talks about a time when the rules and laws of God won't have to be written on stone tablets, because they'll be written on the hearts of men. Jesus talks about that. And the stuff he does that really pisses of the Jewish leadership of that day is when he starts substituting HIMSELF for all the metaphors the Jewish people hold so dear. Like when they ask him about the manna that fell from heaven and he says, "I am the bread of life." And when he tells them that the heart of their worship, the temple, will be destroyed....and tells them that HE is the new temple. this would have been mind-blowing and offensive to a first-century "religious" Jew. but all of it goes to support your point AND rhester's point, i think. that internalizing who Jesus was and recognizing who he was are both important.