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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Aug 1, 2010.

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  1. Bandwagoner

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    ill fight u. lemme know
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    Isn't your religion the religion of peace? I guess you are one of too many who have a somewhat loose interpretation of the term "peace"?
     
  3. HombreDeHierro

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    you're not dumb. i know what you're saying
     
  4. BEAT LA

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    Are you anti-Palestinian? If so, I live in North Houston next to 1960.

    I believe peace can be accomplished by kicking the enemies ass.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Like with suicide bombs and flying planes into tall buildings?
     
  6. BEAT LA

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    I don't believe in killing anyone or even violence for that matter.

    I've never started a fight in my life. I have always avoided instigation, and I've never punched anyone.

    I will make an exception for you.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    How old are you, kid?
     
  8. BEAT LA

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    I'm 22.

    What's so hard to comprehend? I said I will make an exception for you.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Sorry, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought you were 15, as your posts seemed to indicate :(.
     
  10. Hydhypedplaya

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    This is hilarious.

    I made bold the parts of your argument that are flawed. First off, you do not HAVE to take the Qur'an literally:
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/003.qmt.html#003.007
     
  11. Hydhypedplaya

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    LOL

    Apparently you don't know that trustme has lived in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh) for a lot of his life?
    Umm, no. I suggest reading the Hadith again. Or different isnad's of it. It clearly refers to sects and/or groups.

     
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  13. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    1) How on earth would I know that and why is it so funny?

    2) You mean different version. Isnad is the chain of narration. They refer to

    فرقة

    and

    مِلَّةً

    Can you explain to me what these two words mean please? Thanks.
     
  14. HorryForThree

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    فرقة- الفَرْقُ: خلاف الجمع، فَرَقه يَفْرُقُه فَرْقاً وفَرَّقه، وقيل: فَرَقَ للصلاح فَرْقاً، وفَرَّق للإِفساد تَفْريقاً، وانْفَرَقَ الشيء وتَفَرَّق وافْتَرقَ.

    The above is from lisaan al arab. Maqayees al lugha says the following:
    الفاء والراء والقاف أُصَيلٌ صحيحٌ يدلُّ على تمييز وتزييلٍ بين شيئين. من ذلك الفَرْق: فرق الشعر. يقال: فرَقْتُه فَرَقاً.
    والفِرْق القطيع منالغَنَم.
    والفِرق الفِلْق من الشَّيء إذا انفَلَقَ، قال الله تعالى: فَانْفَلَقَ فَكانَ كُلُّ فِرْقٍ كَالطّودِ العَظِيم [الشعراء 63].

    whereas مِلَّةً is:
    المَلَلُ: المَلالُ وهو أَن تَمَلَّ شيئاً وتُعْرِض عنه؛ قال الشاعر: وأُقْسِمُ ما بي من جَفاءٍ ولا ملَل ورجل مَلَّةٌ إِذا كان يَمَلُّ إِخوانَه سريعاً. مَلِلْت الشيء مَلَّة ومَلَلاً ومَلالاً ومَلالة: بَرِمْت به، واسْتَمْلَلْته: كمَلِلْتُه؛ قال ابن هَرْمة: قِفا فَهَرِيقا الدمْع بالمَنْزِل الدَّرْسِ، ولا تَسْتَمِلاَّ أَن يطول به عَنْسِي وهذا كما قالوا خَلَت الدارُ واستخْلت وعَلا قِرْنَه واسْتَعْلاه؛
    also:
    مل (مقاييس اللغة)

    الميم واللام أصلانِ صحيحان، يدلُّ أحدهما على تقليب شيء، والآخر على غَرَضٍ من الشَّيء.فالأوَّل مَلَلْتُ الخُبزة في النّار أمُلُّها مَلاًّ، وذلك تقليبك إيَّاها فيها.

    In general, the entire argument is a little silly. The definition of 'Sunnism' has been subject to much debate in the past; some have broadly used it to simply mean anyone not Shiah, whereas others have been more exclusive with the definition, attempting to co-opt their own personal theological adherences as true 'sunni' thought (ahlus sunnah wal jama'ah). And of course, there are many shades in between.

    There have been a few agreements on what separates Sunnism from Shiism, primary amongst them being Sunnisms adherence to the prophetic tradition with the absence of any imamate, along with broad acceptance for the sahabah. I know this is a generalization, but its well within the objectives of the current discussion so take it as it is. And ultimately, God Knows Best.

    Mathloom/others: perhaps a bit more prudence when speaking about islam all the time is in order. Religious maturity is rarely exercised on online forums, and I think it does a disservice to the discussions at hand to see it devolve the way it has by virtue of your need to prove your points all the time. Just my 2 cents.
     
  15. Granville

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    Anyone else find amusing that a guy that thinks all actions taken against Israel by Palestine are justified comes here and think's it's justifiable to fight someone over a difference of opinion?
     
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  16. Granville

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    It's a good thing that you waited for such a noble cause to start your first fight. :rolleyes:
     
  17. ChrisBosh

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    Buddy it's the internet, everyone on it is tough, makes over $200,000, and finds women like Megan Fox not good enough for them.

    Hell you have CaseyH ready to fight on behalf of some random guy on the internet. He either A) Is an internet tough guy. B) Really wants to beatup a Muslim guy. C) Is 13 years old. D) Both A and C

    I would go with D.
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    I'd be up for it if we make it a fundraiser and the proceeds go to a charitable cause such as a foundation for the victims of Islamic extremism.

    There are only two problems - I don't fight victims, I fight actual opponents. BEAT LA has already stated that he has zero fight experience, so that would be a little problem for him. I should probably also let you know, BEAT LA, that I am 6'6 and weigh more than 200 pounds. Also, I wasn't really planning to be in Houston anytime soon, but I will be in LA and Vegas this month. If you insist on being on the receiving end of a public humiliation, I am sure we can arrange something ;).
     
  19. Qball

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    WTF? :confused:
     
  20. BEAT LA

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    It's not just a difference of opinion.

    This guy is as racist as they come. I want racism to end. These guys only understand one thing and that's getting slapped for speaking their twisted thoughts.
     

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